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re: Peyton Manning back on top in QBR ranking = MVP bound
Posted on 12/4/12 at 2:35 pm to LeonPhelps
Posted on 12/4/12 at 2:35 pm to LeonPhelps
While this is probably an unpopular opinion, I think there are others more deserving. He's obviously having a great year, but it's not like Denver has zero talent besides him. They were already a playoff winning team last year with Tebow of all people. I know he could get it just about every year, but is he truly the most valuable player to his team in comparison across the league? Look at Adrian Peterson, look at Brees (although his ints are OOC this year), look at RG3. While I think he could win it, it just almost standard these days that whenever he does well he's practically guaranteed the award.
Posted on 12/4/12 at 2:40 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
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Look at Adrian Peterson, look at Brees (although his ints are OOC this year), look at RG3. While I think he could win it, it just almost standard these days that whenever he does well he's practically guaranteed the award.
I hear you, but the last person to win the MVP and not make the playoffs was O.J. Simpson. Just like the Heisman typically does not go to a person on a team not ranked highly, the MVP tends to go to playoff-bound teams. That rules out Brees and most likely both Peterson and Griffin.
Also, regarding Griffin, the Shanahans developed an incredible offensive structure to limit the amount of decision-making Griffin has to do. Don't forget that Shanahan has been considered for years as one of if not the best play-caller in the NFL. He has won 3 super bowls calling plays (OC for 49ers in 1994 and HC for Denver in 97-98).
Posted on 12/4/12 at 2:51 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
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They were already a playoff winning team last year with Tebow of all people.
Peyton should not be penalized because they made the playoffs last due to the fact that they had an obscene amount of luck. More importantly, the other teams in the AFC West sucked.
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Look at Adrian Peterson,
I would be happy with this, but the voters will want to see the Vikes in the playoffs. If they get the six seed, then I think AP could get it because their team was absolute shite last year and had no expectations along with a bum arse QB.
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look at Brees
Tom and Aaron over Brees. Not even a question.
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look at RG3
Eh, he has been grossly lucky. Alex Smith with wheels. Look at last night. fricking fumbles for a TD and gets slurped for it. He also does not pass enough. 20 attempts just will not cut it. RG3's pass attempts + rushes is still less than Peyton's pass attempts. Peyton is simply worth more at this point.
Posted on 12/4/12 at 2:52 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
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Brees
Pretty sure at this point he's out of the conversation.
Posted on 12/4/12 at 2:57 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
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They were already a playoff winning team last year
Denver is 5th in the NFL in total offense and 3rd in scoring.
Last year they were 23rd in total offense and 25th in scoring.
Peyton's impact has been incredible
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Look at Adrian Peterson
Here is AP's impact on Minnesota's rushing offense.
This year the Vikings rank 3rd in the NFL in rushing.
Last year?
They ranked 4th
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look at Brees (although his ints are OOC this year)
Man, get that shite out of here. 21 turnovers in 12 games eliminates him from any MVP discussion
Posted on 12/4/12 at 2:57 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
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look at Brees (although his ints are OOC this year)
Brees should not be in the MVP race. Come on son
Posted on 12/4/12 at 3:27 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
quote:Yeah, look at him and all those interceptions.
look at Brees
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