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re: Just want to introduce the Rant to the guy who custom made our 2013 schedule

Posted on 12/3/12 at 3:54 pm to
Posted by nf
Portland, OR
Member since Oct 2012
520 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 3:54 pm to
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BS. Helmet to helmet, no matter what position he plays. Unnecessary roughness if you don't like that one.


Helmet-to-Helmet generally only gets applied to defenseless players like a WR in the process of a catch, or a QB in the process of throwing. Running backs take helmet-to-helmet hits all the time, as do, obviously, linemen. More to the point, the rule mentions only leading with the crown of the helmet. Dial kept his head up and lead with his shoulder.

Unnecessary roughness is generally applied to hits levied on players who are out of bounds, nowhere near the play, or at the end up of a play when the ball-carrier has given up.

Murray was ambling towards the ball carrier, not paying attention, and he got blown up. He's about 7 yards from the play when the hit happens, as well, and moving towards it.

It was certainly a dirty hit, but it's not strictly illegal. If it was anyone other than the QB getting blocked like that no one would even care.
This post was edited on 12/3/12 at 3:58 pm
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 3:57 pm to
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Helmet-to-Helmet only applies to defenseless players like a WR in the process of a catch, or a QB in the process of throwing.


no it doesn't. He lead with the crown of his helmet, which is illegal.

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No player is permitted to initiate contact and target an opponent with the crown of his helmet,



The SEC sent out a memo saying they considered QB's post interception to be defenseless.

The officials have already said it was a blown call, not really anything else to argue
This post was edited on 12/3/12 at 3:58 pm
Posted by Tom Selleck
Member since Jan 2010
670 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 4:17 pm to
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It was certainly a dirty hit, but it's not strictly illegal. If it was anyone other than the QB getting blocked like that no one would even care.


Uhh, I'm pretty sure leading with the helmet is strictly illegal
Posted by TulaneTigerFan
Seattle
Member since Sep 2005
35856 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 4:19 pm to
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It was certainly a dirty hit, but it's not strictly illegal. If it was anyone other than the QB getting blocked like that no one would even care.


Well, according to the SEC you are factually incorrect. They've already confirmed that it was indeed a penalty and should have been called
This post was edited on 12/3/12 at 4:20 pm
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31063 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 5:01 pm to
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It was certainly a dirty hit, but it's not strictly illegal. If it was anyone other than the QB getting blocked like that no one would even care.




BS. Murray was hardly walking, more like feathering his way around to nowhere in particular, and Dial launched himself into Murray. Targeting.

Danielson mentioned that the refs are trying to stop that play from happening, yet when it happens literally 10 feet in front of a ref who is watching it happen, nothing happens. Hmmm, funny you hear about all this, "we're putting a stop to helmet to helmet hits" yet they let this slide, particularly when they're staring right at it.

It was by far more blatant that the one that took place on McCarron earlier in the game, which was called. Happens against an Alabama player and it's called. Way worse and right in front of an official, happens to an opposing player, no call. Hmmmm.....
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