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Question regarding Frank Herron and speed at that position.
Posted on 11/26/12 at 5:20 pm
Posted on 11/26/12 at 5:20 pm
Frank Herron at 6'4" and 236LBs with reported 40 of 5.06. Will he be a DE or maybe LB? Is 5.06 typical speed for our DE's. How quick are Montgomery and Mingo?
Posted on 11/26/12 at 5:21 pm to texastigerr
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40 of 5.06
wow, that's slow. There ain't no way he's a LB with that speed. IIRC, Mingo is around a 4.5 and Sam is a little bit slower. 5.06 would be VERY slow for a DE
Posted on 11/26/12 at 5:26 pm to texastigerr
reported by whom?
Posted on 11/26/12 at 5:31 pm to texastigerr
That's what Rivals has reported, doesn't mean it's true/accurate. Notice how it doesn't have a check mark next to it, means it wasn't authenticated. I've read somewhere he runs around a 4.7, which is plenty fast. The 40 yard dash for D linemen is a dumb measurement of quickness. 10 yard dash/split is what it's all about. Measuring the quick burst of the line.
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One of the biggest misconceptions that emerge from the NFL scouting combine each year is the importance of 40-yard dash times. The 40 is the considered the glamour event of the combine, and every year NFL executives, scouts, draftniks and fans get carried away by some of the mind-boggling times. This often puts too much value on a player’s ability to run fast more than it does his pure football talent. Am I saying that the testing at the combine isn’t important? No, but the test needs to be evaluated more from a football-related standpoint. One of the most important and consistently overlooked measurements at the combine is the first 10 yards of the 40, known as the 10-yard split. This is simply a measurement to see how fast a prospect can cover 10 yards. It’s great to see how fast someone can run 40 yards, but how often in an NFL game are players required to cover that distance on one play? A more reasonable measurement, and a better indicator of “football speed,” is 10 yards.
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Posted on 11/26/12 at 5:37 pm to texastigerr
watch his film and tell me does he play like someone with a 5.0 40
Posted on 11/26/12 at 6:34 pm to texastigerr
If we made DEs have mingos speed to get in, then we would not have any defensive ends
Posted on 11/26/12 at 7:01 pm to texastigerr
He was unblockable with his speed rush at the Nike combine this summer against the best o-lineman in the country. Not worried at all what he runs the 40 in
Posted on 11/26/12 at 7:08 pm to texastigerr
He will prob be playing behind this guy anyway!
Danielle Hunter..............
Danielle Hunter..............
Posted on 11/26/12 at 8:20 pm to texastigerr
that position is all about the shuttle time, not the 40.
Posted on 11/26/12 at 9:55 pm to texastigerr
5.06 is plenty fast for a DE. I doubt Sam Montgomery is faster than that even though he was a 4.44 coming out of high school and a 4.65 last year. He put on a bunch of weight and has definitely slowed down. Look for him to be scraping 5.0 at pro day. Now if 5.06 is as much bullshite as Sam's 4.44, then he's too slow for DE. Anyway Heron will probably end up a hybrid DT/DE. I've read that he has a frame to take a lot more weight.
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