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re: Why is it ok to steal media?

Posted on 11/27/12 at 1:35 pm to
Posted by WikiTiger
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 11/27/12 at 1:35 pm to
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1) Then you as a consumer must accept that you will be unable to buy it once the artists stop recording it.

2) Gee, no band does that now. They've never ever thought of that. Social media! What a great idea! People rake in big bucks giving away stuff on facebook!

3) Yes, instead of selling the thing you actually produce (music, writing, etc.), you should bring in a third party to sell merchandise for people who like the thing you actually produce. This is perhaps the dumbest business plan ever conceived.

4) While I agree music is meant to be experienced live, it also is hard to make a living just touring. You want artists to give up their revenue stream for recording and writing music, and think that a boost touring revenue will replace that? How? Isn't it better to diversify and have multiple revenue streams?

Your argument is one that artists should give away their most valuable commodity -- the permanent hi-fidelity recordings of their work -- away for nothing and hope they make it up in merchandising? That's insane.



Congrats Baloo, you're a dinosaur.

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If we're not willing to pay for recorded music, artists should stop making recordings. Consumers want something for nothing.


And yet, I have literally ZERO fear that people will stop creating and recording new music.

Paradigm shifts don't frighten me like they frighten you. But I'm also not a dinosaur.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 11/27/12 at 3:06 pm to
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I have literally ZERO fear that people will stop creating and recording new music
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 11/27/12 at 3:36 pm to
I'm the dinosaur yet you're the one suggesting tried and true business models from 1975. I'm not afraid of paradigm shifts either. My point is the paradigm has shifted and its the artists turn to fire back. Instead of acting like victims, they should stop giving you free shite. You don't have a right to free shite, and you are demanding artists give you their work for no pay, which is an unsustainable model.

I think indie will go back to pressing physical media and as Freaux suggested, creating their own Spotify-like service that only has certain bands. Matador and Merge (and others) get together and out their catalogs on a service they own. You're the one who thinks its going to stay the same. Actually, you want it to get worse for artists. They are not passive people by nature. There will be a new paradigm shift because the current market can't sustain itself. It's a system designed to breed shittier and shittier music. On that front -- success!
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