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re: Why is it ok to steal media?
Posted on 11/27/12 at 11:02 am to Baloo
Posted on 11/27/12 at 11:02 am to Baloo
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There is no incentive for bands to put their music online other than A) record companies force them and B) goodwill. Since you don't give them goodwill, artists really should pull all of their material off of iTunes, Spotify, Pandora, hell even CD's at this point. All of it. Just press an old fashioned record and at least you'd be able to make rent. There is no monetary incentive to innovate for artists. And they are beginning to figure that out, which is why some indie acts are pulling their catalogs from these services if they can wrest control from the record companies.
I fully support this. I'm not sure if it makes sense but I agree with both CAD and Baloo.
The game HAS to change, that means someone's got to give, and I really think it's up to the artist to that in this instance. If the cards are stacked against them, if they CAN'T make money making music in this day and age, then they have to find a way to do that.
In the current climate, you can't. It's impossible under the rules.
So the only way out, stop it all. Just stop. What would happen if there were no new music? Reset the system and try again to find a happy medium.
Baloo -
Just a question, does this really hur the indie band all that much. Most of the times solid indie bands were screwed anyway. Their fans are good enough, for the most part, to purchase and see them in concert. Many times they don't rely on record sales anyway. I think this is more about the mid-tiered artist than the complete low level indie or the uber-popular Pop artists.
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Posted on 11/27/12 at 11:08 am to Freauxzen
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if they CAN'T make money making music in this day and age
when did artists actually "make money" from selling CDs. from what i unstood artists have always made next to nothing from selling an album and make their money from concerts. the only time artists actually made a lot of money was if they were selling in the gold or platinum range and if thats true then they were selling out arenas for concerts
Posted on 11/27/12 at 11:28 am to Freauxzen
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Just a question, does this really hur the indie band all that much. Most of the times solid indie bands were screwed anyway. Their fans are good enough, for the most part, to purchase and see them in concert. Many times they don't rely on record sales anyway. I think this is more about the mid-tiered artist than the complete low level indie or the uber-popular Pop artists.
you're right. Indie fans are generally loyal enough to not rob their favorite bands blind. there was that article in Esquire that showed how even a successful indie band is not doing very well financially, but let's face it, Black Flag didn't live high on the hog either. The bands that don't really have a profit motive can at least survive for a few years before flaming out. Which is how it always was.
But it is the mid-tiered bands that are getting crushed. They simply don't exist anymore. Look at Aerosmith's career. It would be impossible today. they never, ever, ever would've made it to Toys in the Attic. They couldn't have survived those early years putting out moderate sellers on a major label. That doesn't happen now. It's the "middle class" who has been destroyed. They are also the ones least willing or able to pull their material. They have to play ball or starve.
Cult TV shows are able to stay on the air right now because they can sell DVD's despite poor ratings. It used to be syndication, but now its DVD sales.
While I agree TV distribution could be better, its probably the best its ever been. We get great shows and all are relatively easy to get. Many shows are available on Netflix streaming (except for HBO, which is its own kettle of fish). But if we want lavish HBO shows, we need to pay for it. I can't blame HBO for keeping Game of Thrones within their own universe so they can make money off of it. That show isn't made for free.
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