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re: Dog ?
Posted on 11/20/12 at 3:14 pm to SpeckledTiger
Posted on 11/20/12 at 3:14 pm to SpeckledTiger
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If you have to use aggression to train your dog, you need to learn better training techniques
It's a dog. They learned that way in the wild. The alpha male wouldn't baby another dog into acting right. He'd beat that arse. I don't beat a dog for the sake of beating him, but he is damn sure going to learn who's the boss.
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I always find that people who use physical aggression to train an animal lack the persistence and patients to do it properly
You must be that guy who puts his kids in "timeout." Spare the rod, spoil the child... and the dog.
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Posted on 11/20/12 at 3:23 pm to sullivjh
I don't believe in "beating" a dog, but a "swat" along with a stern voice will convey the message. However, if you're still having to physically correct a dog when it is grown, then you have failed at training.
I also don't usually believe in the use of choke collars, but we had to use one on the great dane/lab stray that showed up at our camp. He was 100lbs, starved and still a puppy. When he filled out, he didn't know his strength. Took him to obedience training and the trainer immediately told us that we needed to get one of the training collars with the metal spikes that dig into the neck. If we didn't use it, it took all the strenght of a full grown man to get him to stop if he started to run.
I also don't usually believe in the use of choke collars, but we had to use one on the great dane/lab stray that showed up at our camp. He was 100lbs, starved and still a puppy. When he filled out, he didn't know his strength. Took him to obedience training and the trainer immediately told us that we needed to get one of the training collars with the metal spikes that dig into the neck. If we didn't use it, it took all the strenght of a full grown man to get him to stop if he started to run.
Posted on 11/20/12 at 3:27 pm to sullivjh
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sullivjh
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They learned that way in the wild. The alpha male wouldn't baby another dog into acting right.
Are you wanting to train a dog to be part of a hunting pack in an eat or be eaten world or are you training a functional companion animal?
Also keep reading...I explained why kids and dogs are different. Humans are far more capable of reasoning than dogs and can more easily separate punishment from aggression. A dog only learns "if I do this, I get that." He is incapable of learning the reason for the punishment/reward.
I did make a mistake. I was too broad when I said "animals don't need to be broken". Domesticated dogs and other companion species are far different than working animals and should be handled differently.
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