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re: Wildcard hunt: Who we want to win this week UPDATED
Posted on 11/19/12 at 12:16 pm to ClientNumber9
Posted on 11/19/12 at 12:16 pm to ClientNumber9
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7) Bears (7-2) @ 49ers (6-2-1): 49ers. Unfortunately, both these teams are likely to make the playoffs at this point so either team winning this game could help or hurt the Saints. But I would bet the 49ers are more a lock to win their division over Seattle than the Bears are to win theirs over Green Bay. With that in mind, it would be better for the 49ers to go ahead and win their division and hope the Bears stumble without Cutler.
I'm thinking we pull for de Bears. The bears are only one game behind the Falcons. Want to keep presure on the Falcons to win so they beat other NFC teams, and most importantly, they don't bench their startes against Tampa in Week 17. You never know, we may need Atlanta to win that game for us in the end.
Posted on 11/19/12 at 2:11 pm to WeBleedCrimson
Tampa still has to play us and Denver and probably Atlanta again, and Dallas still has to play us, I don't remember whether or not they've played Dallas yet.
Posted on 11/19/12 at 3:07 pm to ClientNumber9
Ithink we want the bears to win tonight. We get to play San Fran
Posted on 11/19/12 at 3:13 pm to TigerBait1127
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I think we want the bears to win tonight. We get to play San Fran
I kinda agree
Posted on 11/19/12 at 3:18 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
If we catch the 49ers it won't even matter. They will win the division and get in anyway. Its better if the Bears lose tonight and we try and catch them for a Wild Card. Let GB win the division
Posted on 11/19/12 at 3:20 pm to LSUSkip
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Tampa still has to play us and Denver and probably Atlanta again
yeah they have to play them at home this Sunday and then up in ATL in Week 17.
Posted on 11/19/12 at 4:07 pm to LooseCannon22282
We are battling for the last wild card. Bears and Pack are in IMO.
If the 49ers lose tonight and next week against us, we will be 6-5 and SF will be 6-4-1 and battling Seattle for the Division.
Plus, if Chicago keep swinning, ATL will keep winning and not throwing in the towel the last two weeks.
If the 49ers lose tonight and next week against us, we will be 6-5 and SF will be 6-4-1 and battling Seattle for the Division.
Plus, if Chicago keep swinning, ATL will keep winning and not throwing in the towel the last two weeks.
This post was edited on 11/19/12 at 4:12 pm
Posted on 11/19/12 at 5:57 pm to ClientNumber9
I think we want the Niners to win tonight and go ahead and win their division..
because they lose tonight and we beat them this week.. they still can win their division and all of it be moot.
because they lose tonight and we beat them this week.. they still can win their division and all of it be moot.
Posted on 11/19/12 at 5:58 pm to SouljaBreauxTellEm
I think the best scenario would be another tie from the Niners tonight.
Posted on 11/19/12 at 6:45 pm to alajones
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If the 49ers lose tonight and next week against us, we will be 6-5 and SF will be 6-4-1 and battling Seattle for the Division.
Yeah, people are overlooking that the 49ers and Giants could quickly join the ranks of the teams fighting for a playoff spot altogether. That would give us some leeway in case Seattle wins out and the Cowboys end up winning the NFCE.
And ditto with Chicago putting pressure on Atlanta to win. But it wouldn't be the end of the world if they started losing. They have a brutal schedule coming up: @SF, MIN, SEA, @MIN, GB. I wouldn't be shocked if they lost all of those games, though that would of course be good news for Minnesota.
Posted on 11/19/12 at 6:46 pm to ClientNumber9
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SUCCESS! 1) Cardinals (4-5) @ Falcons (8-1): Falcons. As much as it pains me to say it, the Falcons have the division locked up and it's best they defeat all other NFC teams.
NO DICE 2) Browns (2-7) @ Cowboys (4-5): Browns. No brainer here. An AFC team beating a 4-5 Cowboys team at home would be very nice for us.
SUCCESS! 3) Packers (6-3) @ Lions (4-5): Packers. This is up for some debate, but I would rather the Packers go ahead and win their division (I think with Cutler out with a concussion, they stand the best chance to take the NFC North anyway). A loss by the 4-5 Lions would help to eliminate one more team fighting with New Orleans for a potential wildcard slot.
SUCCESS! 4) Jets (3-6) @ Rams (3-5-1): Jets. Another no brainer. Not that the Rams pose a serious playoff threat, but losing to an AFC team would probably kill their chances altogether at a post-season berth.
NO DICE 5) Eagles (3-6) @ Redskins (3-6): Eagles. While both teams share the same record and division, we own the tiebreaker vs. Philadelphia. With Washington beating us in Week 1, they would be more likely to beat us out in a tie breaker scenario.
NO DICE 6) Buccaneers (5-4) @ Panthers (2-7): Panthers. This is a hugely critical game, as Carolina could blunt Tampa's momentum and bring them to .500. We need Tampa to drop another game or two and must beat them in the Dome on December 16th.
7) Bears (7-2) @ 49ers (6-2-1): 49ers. Unfortunately, both these teams are likely to make the playoffs at this point so either team winning this game could help or hurt the Saints. But I would bet the 49ers are more a lock to win their division over Seattle than the Bears are to win theirs over Green Bay. With that in mind, it would be better for the 49ers to go ahead and win their division and hope the Bears stumble without Cutler.
NOTE: I did not analyze AFC vs. AFC match ups, as they have no bearing on the Saints' playoff chances
I disagree with your analysis of who to root for.
Only game that went our way was the Jets game. Your assumption is for a record of 11-5. We need teams above us to lose, not just below us.
1. We wanted Arizona to win to start a spiral down hill of Atlanta. Had they lost then we would have only been 3 games back with 6 to go. They would have played at Tampa Bay this week and with the way Tampa is playing and Atlanta sucking that could have been easily a loss. Would have put us down 2 with 5 to go. We win in Atlanta and we are behind by one with four left. Atlanta would have then needed to play out hard to keep division. With their last 4 games including games @Carolina,
home against what would have been a desperate Giants team, @Detroit, and home against Tampa they could loose two of those. The Detroit game was also why we wanted them to beat Green Bay.
2. Wanted browns to win but the refs wanted Dallas to win.
3. We needed Detroit to win. The Packers were ripe for a big time loosing streak with all their injuries and a loss to Detroit would have been great so that the games against Minnesota twice, Chicago, and the Giants would have set us up nicely to really not care which team won. As wins by the Packers would have eliminated Chicago and Minnesota or wins by the other teams would have eliminated Green Bay.
4. Jets win was the only win we got in our favor.
5. Eagles versus Redskins did not really matter, only way the Redskins would have come back is to beat both Dallas and the Giants which if we beat those teams as well then we would win the wild card over them.
6. This one hurt the most, would have been nice to have Carolina give us some wiggle room is we beat Tampa Bay twice but loose to Atlanta.
7. Tonight we want the Bears to win. If we beat San Francisco this week and they loose to Seattle and at New England then we will be ahead of them . If they beat Seattle and we win out we will get the tie breaker.
As it stands 10-6 is not a lock for the playoffs if we are tied with Green Bay. But any other team and we have the better conference record by way of 2 of our losses coming to AFC teams.
Posted on 11/19/12 at 7:12 pm to Shankopotomus
That damn Dallas game
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Dallas game not that bad because we still play Dallas and can get the tie breaker with them. the same goes for TB. We lost to GB, so we may as well let them go. Our stiffest compettion is Minnesota and Seattle. We need them to lose. If we pass them then we can control a wild card spot by winning. Washington has us in a tie breaker, but we are a game ahead of them in the standings.
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Dallas game not that bad because we still play Dallas and can get the tie breaker with them. the same goes for TB. We lost to GB, so we may as well let them go. Our stiffest compettion is Minnesota and Seattle. We need them to lose. If we pass them then we can control a wild card spot by winning. Washington has us in a tie breaker, but we are a game ahead of them in the standings.
This post was edited on 11/19/12 at 7:14 pm
Posted on 11/19/12 at 7:24 pm to spike0311
Ain't even worried about Minnesota.
@Bears
@Packers
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@Rams
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Packers
People talk about our schedule being tough. I'd take our remaining schedule at 5-5 over theirs at 6-4.
Seahawks @ Chicago and another against the 9ers, I think they lose both. That would probably allow us to lose a game on the way out and still make it in so long as that loss isn't to TB or Dallas. I know that would put us one game behind TB if they win out aside from the game against us, but I doubt they beat Atlanta AND Denver in the next two weeks. Hopefully they lose both.
@Bears
@Packers
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@Rams
@Texans
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People talk about our schedule being tough. I'd take our remaining schedule at 5-5 over theirs at 6-4.
Seahawks @ Chicago and another against the 9ers, I think they lose both. That would probably allow us to lose a game on the way out and still make it in so long as that loss isn't to TB or Dallas. I know that would put us one game behind TB if they win out aside from the game against us, but I doubt they beat Atlanta AND Denver in the next two weeks. Hopefully they lose both.
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