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re: My review of Lincoln
Posted on 11/16/12 at 10:42 pm to RollTide1987
Posted on 11/16/12 at 10:42 pm to RollTide1987
I love honoring homicidial maniacs.
Posted on 11/16/12 at 10:46 pm to JombieZombie
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Does is show scenes of the Union burning cities to the ground, murdering innocents, and raping women? Or the unlawful imprisonment of thousands of northern writers?
Its amazing the revisionist history that has been developed even just a couple hundred years
Posted on 11/17/12 at 1:26 am to RollTide1987
Acting was great, but the movie was slow as hell.
Posted on 11/17/12 at 3:04 am to The Future
The Future better start reading some history, this movie will be a white washed version of the real Lincoln.
The idea for concentration camps comes from the American Civil War, where whole southern counties were in mass placed in camps in Arkansas and parts of Misouri on orders from the White House.
One of the biggest fans of Lincoln was A. Hitler, who said Lincoln didn't go far enough.
Burning cities took place down to the point of banks and ex Federal building were left standing while the rest of large areas where burn to the ground.
American soldiers, mostly the Genreals were getting rich off the cotton, as was the US government. Check out Genreal Banks and Butler's net worth before and after the Civil War and it is very easy to tell what is going on.
Mudering innocents can be brought up time and again in cases like Genreal Custer who while in Virginia would catch a local man and tell him to guide his troop clear of the Confederate soldiers and if they (the northern troops) ran into Southern troops Custer like many would hang the local person for leading them into a trap. This happened many times in many places.
Raping women happened but not very many times. This is the one thing neither side would put up with, but there are a few cases of this happening. Remember the Beast Bulter's famous order in New Orleans?
War is hell and I will enjoy the Lincoln movie, but I know walking in this will be a movie about a myth and not the real Lincoln.
The idea for concentration camps comes from the American Civil War, where whole southern counties were in mass placed in camps in Arkansas and parts of Misouri on orders from the White House.
One of the biggest fans of Lincoln was A. Hitler, who said Lincoln didn't go far enough.
Burning cities took place down to the point of banks and ex Federal building were left standing while the rest of large areas where burn to the ground.
American soldiers, mostly the Genreals were getting rich off the cotton, as was the US government. Check out Genreal Banks and Butler's net worth before and after the Civil War and it is very easy to tell what is going on.
Mudering innocents can be brought up time and again in cases like Genreal Custer who while in Virginia would catch a local man and tell him to guide his troop clear of the Confederate soldiers and if they (the northern troops) ran into Southern troops Custer like many would hang the local person for leading them into a trap. This happened many times in many places.
Raping women happened but not very many times. This is the one thing neither side would put up with, but there are a few cases of this happening. Remember the Beast Bulter's famous order in New Orleans?
War is hell and I will enjoy the Lincoln movie, but I know walking in this will be a movie about a myth and not the real Lincoln.
This post was edited on 11/17/12 at 3:06 am
Posted on 11/17/12 at 7:19 am to tigger1
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The Future better start reading some history, this movie will be a white washed version of the real Lincoln.
Reading what you wrote below, I think it is you who need to read some history. You are either the biggest idiot or the biggest troll I have ever seen on this particular message board.
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The idea for concentration camps comes from the American Civil War, where whole southern counties were in mass placed in camps in Arkansas and parts of Misouri on orders from the White House.
Are you talking about POW camps located in Missouri and Arkansas? The Confederacy had these as well. Both sides had camps with poor sanitation and a high mortality rate due to disease and malnourishment.
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One of the biggest fans of Lincoln was A. Hitler, who said Lincoln didn't go far enough.
Might you be confusing Hitler with Josef Stalin who said Ivan the Terrible, a former Russian tsar, didn't go far enough when it came to purging his empire of potential enemies?
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Burning cities took place down to the point of banks and ex Federal building were left standing while the rest of large areas where burn to the ground.
You do know that the Civil War was an actual war, don't you? The desolation of cities are common place, especially in a full-scale total war.
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American soldiers, mostly the Genreals were getting rich off the cotton, as was the US government. Check out Genreal Banks and Butler's net worth before and after the Civil War and it is very easy to tell what is going on.
Why don't you check out guys like Benjamin Butler's history BEFORE the Civil War? Butler was one of the most powerful Northern Democratic politicians and was given a generalship precisely because of his wealth, power, and influence. Also..war profiteering is one of the most common practices and has occurred in every single American war since the Revolution.
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Mudering innocents can be brought up time and again in cases like Genreal Custer who while in Virginia would catch a local man and tell him to guide his troop clear of the Confederate soldiers and if they (the northern troops) ran into Southern troops Custer like many would hang the local person for leading them into a trap. This happened many times in many places.
You really do love to exaggerate and embellish, don't you? Union soldiers would not kill a civilian unless they had good evidence that said civilian was a Confederate spy. Leading Union troops into a Confederate ambush would be a good sign of that civilian being a rebel.
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Raping women happened but not very many times. This is the one thing neither side would put up with, but there are a few cases of this happening. Remember the Beast Bulter's famous order in New Orleans?
How does Benjamin Butler's General Order No. 28 have anything to do with the raping of women? The order, while stupid and unlawful by today's standards, had nothing to do with rape.
This post was edited on 11/17/12 at 7:53 am
Posted on 11/17/12 at 7:49 am to RollTide1987
Good review!
You're going to get blasted making no mention of JGL though.
It's good to hear that they are being very accurate as well as looking at Lincoln's short-comings.
We're going to have a busy Holiday Season with tons of awesome movies and a huge award season!
You're going to get blasted making no mention of JGL though.
It's good to hear that they are being very accurate as well as looking at Lincoln's short-comings.
We're going to have a busy Holiday Season with tons of awesome movies and a huge award season!
Posted on 11/17/12 at 10:51 am to Baloo
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Incredibly underrated actor. He always brings it.
Yeah. Even in shitty roles he's always on his A game.
Posted on 11/17/12 at 11:08 am to Pectus
quote:False.
they are being very accurate
Posted on 11/17/12 at 4:44 pm to RollTide1987
1. Nice review.
2. You care way way way too much about the oscars.
3. I take it that most people who say Daniel Day Lewis' best film is something other than My Left Foot, haven't seen My Left Foot.
2. You care way way way too much about the oscars.
3. I take it that most people who say Daniel Day Lewis' best film is something other than My Left Foot, haven't seen My Left Foot.
Posted on 11/17/12 at 4:52 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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You care way way way too much about the oscars.
This may be true but every man needs a hobby. The awards race is one of mine.
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I take it that most people who say Daniel Day Lewis' best film is something other than My Left Foot, haven't seen My Left Foot.
I actually just saw that movie the other day while I was prepping for Lincoln. Very good performance. I liked his performance in Lincoln more, however.
Posted on 11/17/12 at 4:55 pm to tigger1
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The idea for concentration camps comes from the American Civil War, where whole southern counties were in mass placed in camps in Arkansas and parts of Misouri on orders from the White House.
Wrong. They are based on the British POW camps from the Napoleanic Wars where 200,000 foreign troops were imprisoned on British soil from 1792 to 1818.
Posted on 11/17/12 at 5:11 pm to RollTide1987
Nothing wrong with that.
I didn't get to check out Skyfall last weekend so I watched it last night, hopefully will get Lincoln soon. Thinking of hanging a Hobbit and Django countdown clock on my wall.
I didn't get to check out Skyfall last weekend so I watched it last night, hopefully will get Lincoln soon. Thinking of hanging a Hobbit and Django countdown clock on my wall.
Posted on 11/17/12 at 6:16 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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Thinking of hanging a Hobbit and Django countdown clock on my wall.
Django, son. You get two more years of The Hobbit after this one.
Posted on 11/17/12 at 11:30 pm to Marciano1
Unbelievable movie and the best acting by such a large group of actors I've seen in recent memory...
But the ending... blah
But the ending... blah
This post was edited on 11/17/12 at 11:30 pm
Posted on 11/17/12 at 11:56 pm to Chet Manley
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But the ending... blah
I agree. Had they ended it as he was leaving the White House it would have been PERFECT. Everyone knows what happens to him, there's no need to shove it down our throats.
This post was edited on 11/18/12 at 12:00 am
Posted on 11/18/12 at 12:06 am to RollTide1987
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I agree. Had they ended it as he was leaving the White House it would have been PERFECT. Everyone knows what happens to him, there's no need to shove it down our throats.
Couldn't agree more! Other than that, this movie will take home numerous awards. Daniel Day Lewis >>>
Posted on 11/18/12 at 8:06 am to tigger1
Some posters here must love KA's "Old South Weekend".
Posted on 11/18/12 at 10:50 am to VOR
I'm surprised some of the posters haven't said:
Birth of a Nation > Lincoln
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