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re: list of college coaches that ranters prefer over miles
Posted on 10/24/12 at 12:32 pm to LSU GrandDad
Posted on 10/24/12 at 12:32 pm to LSU GrandDad
None of those people who wanted Derek Dooley want to own up to it anymore?
Posted on 10/24/12 at 12:36 pm to saintsfan22
I don't get the LES hype. The guy is an average coach that gets by with great talent. The year he won the title, he backed with 2 losses just because all other teams sucked that year. Very very average coach.
Posted on 10/24/12 at 12:38 pm to dante
I just wish half our fan base would go for another team...whiny little bitches!...please go away...
Posted on 10/24/12 at 12:50 pm to LSU GrandDad
Nick Saban
Urban Meyer
Urban Meyer
Posted on 10/24/12 at 12:51 pm to saintsfan22
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None of those people who wanted Derek Dooley want to own up to it anymore?
there were people on here that wanted Derek frickin' Dooley?
Posted on 10/24/12 at 12:53 pm to Boomdat
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that gets by with great talent
name one coach...in any sport...that won anything of significance with no talent. i'll wait
This post was edited on 10/24/12 at 12:53 pm
Posted on 10/24/12 at 12:59 pm to Choctaw
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there were people on here that wanted Derek frickin' Dooley?
shite yeah. To some he was the 2nd coming of Saban after LSU played Tech in '09.
Posted on 10/24/12 at 1:03 pm to saintsfan22
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To some he was the 2nd coming of Saban after LSU played Tech in '09.
oh yeah...i remember that shite
Posted on 10/24/12 at 1:05 pm to LSU GrandDad
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list of college coaches that ranters prefer over miles
Says much about the mentality that exists here. Not fussin man, I understand where you're coming from. But taking a step back and considering what universe would exist where this type OP seems needed...the TR.
Posted on 10/24/12 at 1:17 pm to The312
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Threads like this are always illogical,
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LSU obviously has a much more fertile recruiting base, vastly better facilities, and a more storied traditional that either USF or Boise State. Naturally, the head coach of LSU benefits from those circumstances
you just flunked logic. you left out a vital fact; lsu plays better, MUCH BETTER, competition.
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Great football coaches aren't THAT rare
you have already flunked logic and here you go flunking history and reality all in one fell swoop.
there are indeed some bright young coaches out there that MAY be better than miles, esp. in the area of offense. but, it is not practical to fire miles and hire one on a speculative basis and give him a few years then fire him and then hire another "potential" superstar, etc, etc. after playing this 20 to 40 million dollar "experiment" to find this bright young football coach is pure folley and very irresponsible. TAF funds would dry up very fast; hell, i'm not donating for some AD to play musical chairs with multi-million dollar contracts with multi-million dollar buy outs.
Posted on 10/24/12 at 1:23 pm to Tiger_n_ATL
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I would be happy with a real, innovative, aggressive young OC.
Stud is a great OL coach. Possibly CLM makes a hard decision, moves him back (but pays him well enough so he'll stay) and hires another OC. Hell, maybe the guy from Towson.
Posted on 10/24/12 at 1:26 pm to Boomdat
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I don't get the LES hype. The guy is an average coach that gets by with great talent. The year he won the title, he backed with 2 losses just because all other teams sucked that year. Very very average coach.
Who do you think brings the talent in? You think Les and his staff just sit around their offices playing Spades and stud recruits walk in and sign up? BTW, that "very very average coach" has a pretty good record against Saban, Meyer and Spurrier, who you all think are the best in the business.
Posted on 10/24/12 at 1:29 pm to LSU GrandDad
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you just flunked logic. you left out a vital fact; lsu plays better, MUCH BETTER, competition
First of all, you can go ahead and forget the attempts at cutting pithiness. They aren't working. Just argue whatever point you are supposedly making. Second, not necessarily. For example, a head coach from a lower level BCS conference school would face competition comparable to LSU's. The Saban anecdote I provided is the perfect exemplar. Michigan State was in a major conference, faced major conference competition, but didn't have LSU's advantages. The same could be said for many other schools today.
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there are indeed some bright young coaches out there that MAY be better than miles, esp. in the area of offense. but, it is not practical to fire miles and hire one on a speculative basis and give him a few years then fire him and then hire another "potential" superstar, etc, etc. after playing this 20 to 40 million dollar "experiment" to find this bright young football coach is pure folley and very irresponsible. TAF funds would dry up very fast; hell, i'm not donating for some AD to play musical chairs with multi-million dollar contracts with multi-million dollar buy outs.
This is completely disengenuous for at least two reasons. First of all, I ended my previous post by explicitly stating that this was all idle speculation and that Miles wasn't going anywhere. You apparently decided to ignore that stipulation. Second of all, you started this thread. You can't draft a thread which invites the reader to consider alternatives to Miles and then chastise him/her for doing exactly that.
The bottom line is that your analysis was too simplistic because it rested almost exclusively on comparisons of overall records. By that incomplete metric, you would have also reasoned that DiNardo was a better coach than Saban at the end of 1997. Obviously, an erroneous conclusion. Similarly, you can't conclude that Miles is "better" than a coach at a less advantaged school merely because Miles has a superior record over the same period. The evaluation is more complex.
This post was edited on 10/24/12 at 1:38 pm
Posted on 10/24/12 at 1:31 pm to LSU GrandDad
I like Les, he gets the wins. Nothing flashy though like some people want.
Posted on 10/24/12 at 1:32 pm to JonTheTigerFan
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has a pretty good record against Saban, Meyer and Spurrier,
3-3, 3-3, 3-0, respectively. If I had to hazard a guess, UA has had better recruiting classes, during Urban's tenure, the same or better. Spurrier of course is making the most with the least, as much as anyone (save maybe Petrino). Of course ultimately, recruiting is one the primary functions of a CFB HC, so that's on them, not Miles, who's doing his job.
Posted on 10/24/12 at 1:40 pm to saintsfan22
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there were people on here that wanted Derek frickin' Dooley?
quote:To be honest though, I bet he would make a very good position coach again at LSU.
shite yeah. To some he was the 2nd coming of Saban after LSU played Tech in '09.
Posted on 10/24/12 at 1:43 pm to LSU GrandDad
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West Virginia
Ernie McCracken! Are you kidding me?
Posted on 10/24/12 at 2:37 pm to DownSouthCrawfish
Problem is there will be no guarantee chavis would stay here. Firing Les would create a shite storm.
Posted on 10/24/12 at 2:38 pm to LSU GrandDad
This list assumes we get to keep Chavis as DC:
Saban
Fisher
Chip Kelly
Jim Harbaugh
James Franklin
Patterson
Mike Leach
Synder
Peterson
Gundy
Saban
Fisher
Chip Kelly
Jim Harbaugh
James Franklin
Patterson
Mike Leach
Synder
Peterson
Gundy
This post was edited on 10/24/12 at 2:39 pm
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