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The way-too obvious way to succeed on offense
Posted on 10/22/12 at 9:43 am
Posted on 10/22/12 at 9:43 am
It's been a while since i've posted, and I haven't been patrolling the board, so maybe it's been covered, but I haven't seen much talk about it: Play-Action
I don't know where or how to verify this, but I would bet that LSU has easily run the fewest play fakes to date in all of college football.
I kept hearing talk from fans about how Mettenberger sucks and about how our receivers can't get any separation, but with the exception of long third downs from shotgun, just about every passing play we run starts with the QB behind center and just dropping back, and given that we've probably never run a draw on a play like this, we're making it way too easy for defenses to know what we're doing.
It's basic offensive strategy that, especially in conjunction with an effective running game, calling play-action passes is effecting in manufacturing separation FOR your receivers, especially against talented DB's. One half-step bite by a safety or corner can spring a receiver free, thus making it easier to complete passes and gain YAC. Sounds simple, right? So why don't we do it?
For that matter, we rarely run any counters or other misdirection plays; we rely far too much on personnel and barely any on creative or even, as said, simple ways to create passing and running lanes. We treat some basic misdirection plays as trick plays, and we reserve their use to only fourth down and other critical in-game situations, such as that very effective wildcat pitch against A&M.
Not to mention, just a little bit of balance would go a long way toward making our excellent run game that much more effective, especially againts an opponent like Alabama. (see 2nd half vs. Florida)
I've even heard people say that we were saving all our play-action passing plays all year for 'Bama. Seriously?
I know our receivers have dropped some open passes, but effective, untelegraphed playcalling is the only way to generated some rhythm and confidence in our passing game - starting with our quarterback, and we've survived so far, but it has to start now.
I don't know where or how to verify this, but I would bet that LSU has easily run the fewest play fakes to date in all of college football.
I kept hearing talk from fans about how Mettenberger sucks and about how our receivers can't get any separation, but with the exception of long third downs from shotgun, just about every passing play we run starts with the QB behind center and just dropping back, and given that we've probably never run a draw on a play like this, we're making it way too easy for defenses to know what we're doing.
It's basic offensive strategy that, especially in conjunction with an effective running game, calling play-action passes is effecting in manufacturing separation FOR your receivers, especially against talented DB's. One half-step bite by a safety or corner can spring a receiver free, thus making it easier to complete passes and gain YAC. Sounds simple, right? So why don't we do it?
For that matter, we rarely run any counters or other misdirection plays; we rely far too much on personnel and barely any on creative or even, as said, simple ways to create passing and running lanes. We treat some basic misdirection plays as trick plays, and we reserve their use to only fourth down and other critical in-game situations, such as that very effective wildcat pitch against A&M.
Not to mention, just a little bit of balance would go a long way toward making our excellent run game that much more effective, especially againts an opponent like Alabama. (see 2nd half vs. Florida)
I've even heard people say that we were saving all our play-action passing plays all year for 'Bama. Seriously?
I know our receivers have dropped some open passes, but effective, untelegraphed playcalling is the only way to generated some rhythm and confidence in our passing game - starting with our quarterback, and we've survived so far, but it has to start now.
Posted on 10/22/12 at 9:55 am to misterdavamoto
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but effective, untelegraphed playcalling is the only way to generated some rhythm and confidence in our passing game
Amen. In the SC game and the TAMU game, Studrawa on multiple occasions called the EXACT same pass play on consecutive snaps. Too often the offense is predicated on low-percentage plays --- 30 yard verticals and behind-scrimmage tosses and screens. SEC defenses are too damn good and too damn fast for that sort of nonsense to work.
Posted on 10/22/12 at 9:56 am to misterdavamoto
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Play-Action
Tell me more about this.
Posted on 10/22/12 at 10:02 am to misterdavamoto
We leave 1 or 2 TDs on the field every game because a wide open WR is missed or the WR screws up the route/or fumbles.
The big plays in the passing game are there, Mett just isn't connecting on them.
The big plays in the passing game are there, Mett just isn't connecting on them.
Posted on 10/22/12 at 10:03 am to misterdavamoto
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Play-Action
what is this Play-Action you speak of? Is this something recently employed by some teams?
Posted on 10/22/12 at 11:11 am to misterdavamoto
Warecat Zone Read option plays a few times then playaction that shite and let Ware bomb one....
Posted on 10/22/12 at 2:58 pm to misterdavamoto
I've seen lots of play action so not sure what you mean. It's subtle but it happens in the I-form. Sometimes there is a straight drop and sometimes mett looks back at the RB, runs towards him, then turns to throw. Don't know how you've missed that considering it happens like 8 times a game. I agree on counter and misdirection though. Not enough plays where OL pulls either.
Posted on 10/22/12 at 5:10 pm to misterdavamoto
It doesn't even necessarily have to be play action.... but at least make SOME attempt to fool the defense.
For example, the Saints ran a play yesterday in which Moore flanked wide right, Sproles lined up in the backfield, and on the snap Sproles veered out to the right as though it would be a quick backfield screen to him, while making himself VERY conspicuous.... Brees pump faked to him drawing the lb's and cornerback, and then fired long up the sidelines to a wide open Moore for a big gain. It was a quick developing play for a big gain that really didn't require extraordinary pass protection.
And I thought to myself... THIS team knows how to play modern offense. And I thought back to the day before on how LSU never seems to attempt to outmaneuver the defense, but only to overpower them. It's as though Les thinks it's unmanly to play football in any other way. And then I cried.
For example, the Saints ran a play yesterday in which Moore flanked wide right, Sproles lined up in the backfield, and on the snap Sproles veered out to the right as though it would be a quick backfield screen to him, while making himself VERY conspicuous.... Brees pump faked to him drawing the lb's and cornerback, and then fired long up the sidelines to a wide open Moore for a big gain. It was a quick developing play for a big gain that really didn't require extraordinary pass protection.
And I thought to myself... THIS team knows how to play modern offense. And I thought back to the day before on how LSU never seems to attempt to outmaneuver the defense, but only to overpower them. It's as though Les thinks it's unmanly to play football in any other way. And then I cried.
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