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Lessons from Les' decision to play JJ exclusively after Bama 1 and on 1/9/2012
Posted on 10/7/12 at 1:31 pm
Posted on 10/7/12 at 1:31 pm
I am NOT trying to open a new discussion about JJ and Lee. But I do think that Les' stubborn insistence upon playing JJ exclusively in the face of terrible offensive performances against Arkansas, Georgia and then Bama in the BCS championship game demonstrates that he simply has no clue that his offense (Yes, HIS offense) simply sucks. How anyone could think that our offensive performance IMPROVED with JJ at the helm simply cannot see the forest for the trees. His stubborn streak simply won't allow him to see the truth. That's why so many of us were frustrated last year when he replaced Lee, under whom the offense was doing quite well (for the most part, I recognize the Bama 1 performance was lacking, but it's not like JJ lit it up either), in favor of an offense that NEVER moved the ball. Seven 3 and outs in a row in a half tells the tale.
And that is exactly what he is CHOOSING to do with this year's offense. My guess is that the first drive was scripted, which explains why it was the most successful possession of the day. After that, they began ad libbing, meaning Les defaulted to his norm, and the performance worsened over the course of the day. The same judgment that gave us JJ over Lee in the face of objectively obvious evidence (I think even the positards conceded the issue after 1/9/2012) is giving us play calling that leads to zero offensive output. This is simply more of the same poor judgment and lack of insight.
I've seen something related on other threads. This offense is boring. Even if we win, it's not very fun to watch. I know I prefer to win, but I was frustrated when we won so ugly last year. The wins against Arky and Georgia were a function of special teams play and defensive scores, which simply masked a more obvious problem -- the same problem we now see in this year's offense. Les interpreted those wins as reinforcement that his scheme was working, rather than a wake up call to effect changes. Arky and Georgia showed exactly what Bama had to do to shut us down, and they did. I fear the Florida game will provide the same roadmap to everyone else on the schedule. And given that Les is blind or stubborn, or both, it's going to be a long, upsetting and frustrating season from here on out.
And that is exactly what he is CHOOSING to do with this year's offense. My guess is that the first drive was scripted, which explains why it was the most successful possession of the day. After that, they began ad libbing, meaning Les defaulted to his norm, and the performance worsened over the course of the day. The same judgment that gave us JJ over Lee in the face of objectively obvious evidence (I think even the positards conceded the issue after 1/9/2012) is giving us play calling that leads to zero offensive output. This is simply more of the same poor judgment and lack of insight.
I've seen something related on other threads. This offense is boring. Even if we win, it's not very fun to watch. I know I prefer to win, but I was frustrated when we won so ugly last year. The wins against Arky and Georgia were a function of special teams play and defensive scores, which simply masked a more obvious problem -- the same problem we now see in this year's offense. Les interpreted those wins as reinforcement that his scheme was working, rather than a wake up call to effect changes. Arky and Georgia showed exactly what Bama had to do to shut us down, and they did. I fear the Florida game will provide the same roadmap to everyone else on the schedule. And given that Les is blind or stubborn, or both, it's going to be a long, upsetting and frustrating season from here on out.
Posted on 10/7/12 at 1:34 pm to Msgulfcoasttiger
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How anyone could think that our offensive performance IMPROVED with JJ at the helm simply cannot see the forest for the trees.
Maybe one day you can accept that it did. Maybe one day you will realize that the O wasn't any better with Lee in.
Posted on 10/7/12 at 1:36 pm to Msgulfcoasttiger
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he wins against Arky and Georgia were a function of special teams play and defensive scores, which simply masked a more obvious problem -- the same problem we now see in this year's offense. Les interpreted those wins as reinforcement that his scheme was working, rather than a wake up call to effect changes. Arky and Georgia showed exactly what Bama had to do to shut us down, and they did.
I hate when people lie. Our best offensive performance of the season was against #3 Arkansas at the end of the season.
Posted on 10/7/12 at 1:40 pm to Msgulfcoasttiger
The deal is that he doesn't care if his offense is moving up and down the field scoring 50 points.
Like, it'd be nice if it did, but Miles' offensive philosophy is to play great defense, and use your offense to control tempo and field position so you can shorten the game and minimize mistakes that can change the game.
That's why we pound on people so much. To shorten the game and defeat teh will of the opposition. Even if it's a 8 play drive that ends up in a punt, that's a win because you changed field position and controlled the ball long enough to keep your D rested and in good field position.
When they can't, there's no chance of doing anything in that game.
Like, it'd be nice if it did, but Miles' offensive philosophy is to play great defense, and use your offense to control tempo and field position so you can shorten the game and minimize mistakes that can change the game.
That's why we pound on people so much. To shorten the game and defeat teh will of the opposition. Even if it's a 8 play drive that ends up in a punt, that's a win because you changed field position and controlled the ball long enough to keep your D rested and in good field position.
When they can't, there's no chance of doing anything in that game.
Posted on 10/7/12 at 1:42 pm to Msgulfcoasttiger
quote:Bravo! You have captured the heart of what I have been saying and saying since 1/9 (and those three JJ games before that). *CLM has done some great things; LSU's record under his management his been stellar. His coaching, however, has not been stellar. He is a manager rather than a leader. Anybody who does not know the difference is not going to agree. But in more concrete terms, Steve Spurrier is not simply a manager, Steve Spurrier as a coach is an innovative leader - esp. when he was at UF. Urban Myer is not a manager; he is a leader. Mack Brown seems to be more a manager, and *CLM is more like him.
And given that Les is blind or stubborn, or both, it's going to be a long, upsetting and frustrating season from here on out.
None of this is good for LSU and I'm pretty sure that unless something radically changes in less than one week, LSU could well be 5-5 going into the Ole Miss game, and maybe barely bowl eligible for Arkansas if we beat Ole Miss.
There is too much raw talent on this team for the kind of output we have been seeing. In a nutshell, I think the problem is that *CLM does not know how to develop that raw talent to the next level, esp. on the offensive side. And from what I can see, he does not seem to foster a coaching culture at LSU in which he is willing to allow the other coaches on staff to do that for him.
Not good for LSU.
This post was edited on 10/7/12 at 1:46 pm
Posted on 10/7/12 at 2:27 pm to Msgulfcoasttiger
So you still think a diff qb would have changed what happened? We have a diff qb now, same bullshite.
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