re: Melvin Jones drops to a 3 star on rivals

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I can definitely understand why Neal is ranked so lowly on these sites(all of them)

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i agree...i just love his hustle, and other intangibles (i would use the word high motor guy but i hate the nfl scouts that abuse the shite out of it)

rivals doesnt measure that stuff

Still on your knees, eh? Ok let's deconstruct today's prayer to the almighty recruiting services.

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I love the 20/20 hindsight that goes on because people hate the recruiting services.

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It amazes me how you are unable to comprehend -- or unwilling -- how looking at how players performed in their careers and then drafted, or not, compares to how the recruiting services rated them. They explicitly state they are trying to predict their NFL potential. Their 5* players are the kids they assess will be 1st round draft picks, the elite, the cream of the crop. Why on earth do you object to people checking to see how their predictions turned out? Were they right, or were they wrong? It has nothing to do with the normal use of the term 20/20 hindsight, it is the only way to check out their predictions. Why are you so hung up on criticizing people for grading the actual performance of the recruiting services? Is it just that you hate to read that only 4 of the 3000 draft eligible kids last year taken in the 1st round had been rated 5*? You just hate to read that the recruiting service are pathetic at predicting the 1st round of the NFL Draft?

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There are several hundred, if not thousand players rated 3* each year. Cheery picking a few out proves nothing. Some of these guys were raw athletes, without defined postions that became stars because of coaching and developement they got in college, others were just late bloomers. Happens with kids going from college to the pros all the time.

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It's the recruiting services that start the cherry picking! They follow kids for 3 years in high school evaluating them, cherry picking the ones they think are likely to be all-Americans, 1st round draft picks. The fact that the 1st round invariably turns out to be 75% 3* and 4* and 12.5% are 5* and 12.5% are 2* says the recruiting services are right on 1 of 8 5* assessments. 7 out of 8 5* will not be drafted in the 1st round. Their predictions are wrong 7 out of 8 times.

There is not 1 poster on this board who hates the recruiting service. Not one. It just seems that way to you because you idolize them. You defend them every time somebody posts factual info about them. Enjoy the recruiting services; they are fun, a guide, reference material, a source of info. As a predictor of elite players, their 5* evaluations are proven over their entire history to be poor. Rise from your knees, and pray no more.