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Posted on 4/14/15 at 5:20 pm to
Posted by Mr. Wayne
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Posted on 4/14/15 at 5:20 pm to
I think it could mean any younger brother, but to make it more well rounded you use Sandor. Not only is he the little brother, but he will ultimately "kill" Cersei by defeating his older brother in single combat. It's an extra layer that make it more profound than any other 2nd son.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 4/14/15 at 5:24 pm to
What's this?

REAL talk, about real GOT stuff?

I LIKE IT!!!

So glad the show has started back.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 4/14/15 at 5:27 pm to
quote:

I think it could mean any younger brother, but to make it more well rounded you use Sandor. Not only is he the little brother, but he will ultimately "kill" Cersei by defeating his older brother in single combat. It's an extra layer that make it more profound than any other 2nd son.


I agree. I've seen this coming for some time. I was a hybrid (ahead in the show, behind in the books). I'm now very slightly ahead in the books. Everything has set up a significant battle between the Cleganes. The fact that one has gone zombie and the other is likely to be a fundamentalist holy warrior for the seven is only going to make it even more profound. (Sandor was always the thinker of the 2 ).

Posted by TigerintheNO
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/14/15 at 6:41 pm to
quote:

I think it could mean any younger brother, but to make it more well rounded you use Sandor. Not only is he the little brother, but he will ultimately "kill" Cersei by defeating his older brother in single combat. It's an extra layer that make it more profound than any other 2nd son


without a doubt Sandor makes alot of sense in that theory, but is it possible with regard to timeline?

I would assume that Cersei's trial would be fairly soon, and two of her children are still alive. Do you feel it is possible both are offed prior?
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 4/14/15 at 7:20 pm to
quote:

I think it could mean any younger brother, but to make it more well rounded you use Sandor. Not only is he the little brother, but he will ultimately "kill" Cersei by defeating his older brother in single combat. It's an extra layer that make it more profound than any other 2nd son.



No it wouldn't make it more profound. Sure Sandor killing Gregor for good would be great, but it does absolutely nothing for Cersei's arc. All Cersei will do is go to her death defiant and the only thing she'd truly be pissed about is that Jaime isn't there to go down with her. In fact, she will probably be shockingly content, since Tommen and Myrcella are still theoretically alive. I want Cersei's POV to be theoretically as sad as Cat's in the Red Wedding when she lost everything.

To start it off, I'd want her to obsess over the beautiful queen. When she wins her trial, has Margeary in her custody, and Doran finds out that his son was killed by Dany's dragons, Arianne will become Aegon's queen (which is why I suspect she's been cut since Aegon has been as well), and Cersei will then obsess with Arianne thinking she's the Queen who is more beautiful. Next LF openly betrays Cersei and declares Sansa the Queen in the North, and then Cersei begins obsessing over Sansa and the fact that she killed Joffrey. Finally I think Tyrion will send Cersei a message to make her even more neurotic, saying that he's now Dany's Hand of the Queen and that they are coming for everything she holds dear. Cersei will think she's now surrounded by the prophesy and that Dany poses the most threat to her due to Tyrion.

If you pay attention to any of her POVs, you will realize that the thought of Jaime being the Valonqar has never once crossed her mind. She will obsess on securing the ports of King's Landing barely defending the land, when Aegon will come basically unopposed and the Tyrells and Faith Militant open the gates for him. With Myrcella already dead, Cersei poisons Tommen, and the second that Tommen dies on the foot of the throne, Jaime walks in, and she's thrilled to see him, thinking they'll die together. Jaime instead explains to her why he killed the Mad King, and she realizes that she's become Aerys and that Jaime is the Valonqar. In the end, all of the queens took what she held most dear in one way or another, and she'll die knowing this.
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