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re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS

Posted on 4/21/14 at 2:49 pm to
Posted by thatguy1892
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 2:49 pm to
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he "could kill all of us with his left hand while taking a piss with his right", so we know it is highly unlikely Ned killed him.


Except, Howland probably knows more about a poisons that Oberyn, and more than likely used that knowledge in the fight.

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IMO, that Howland died here.


The Jojen Reed does not exist.


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Dawn is buried in the crypts,


Ned would never do such a thing. Dawn is a BIG DEAL to the Daynes. It's not just the family valyrian sword, if a Dayne family member is not worthy of carrying the sword, then it just sits there. And there's also this:

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Dawn remains at Starfall, until another Sword of the Morning shall arise.


That's from George himself.
Posted by Gugich22
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 3:02 pm to
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Dawn remains at Starfall, until another Sword of the Morning shall arise.


That's from George himself.



do you guys think Dawn will arise in the series? if so, who will wield it?
Posted by skirpnasty
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 3:15 pm to
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The Jojen Reed does not exist.


Its stated many times that we don't know how old the Reed children are, because they age differently. This is ignoring the fact that with Jojen being a sickly kid at this point in time, he could easily be as old or older than Jon/Robb.

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Ned would never do such a thing. Dawn is a BIG DEAL to the Daynes. It's not just the family valyrian sword, if a Dayne family member is not worthy of carrying the sword, then it just sits there.


This probably changes if Dayne yields to Ned. The only thing better than death defending Jon, for Dayne, would be an oath to protect him later in life IMO. Under this scenario, Dayne is still fulfilling his vow, defending the king. I think he comes up in the story, and maybe we have already seen him and don't know it. Dawn is a big deal to them, but what if Dayne had figured out that Dawn was Lightbringer via Rhaegar? Then wouldn't it make a little more sense for him to leave the sword to Jon? Under the assumption that Jon is TPTWP/AA?

IF he isn't dead, think there is a decent chance that he is Mance. Given Mance's father like protection of Jon. Him traveling to the feast as a bard and watching Jon. His skill with a sword that he obviously got somewhere other than the wall. The wildling woman patching his cloak spurring him to leave the wall, hinting to a previous loyalty to his house. Not to mention that north is the only place he could go where people wouldn't know him as Arthur Dayne.

Its crackpot for sure, but would be pretty cool. And he is brought up as much as any knight in ASOIAF. No reason that he would be mentioned more than Duncan the Tall, someone that we have separate books about, unless he or his family contribute significantly to the plot.
This post was edited on 4/21/14 at 3:29 pm
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