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Posted on 5/3/13 at 12:37 pm to
Posted by Methuselah
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Posted on 5/3/13 at 12:37 pm to
I've been half randomly clicking link to link through Wiki SOI&F site and found two interesting things which I thought I'd throw out here:

When Yoren stopped at Winterfell on his way from the Wall (Tyrion was accompanying him I think) to King's Landing, he told them about Benjen being missing. Bran was apparently very adamant that Benjen was not dead. I know this was before Bran had really developed his dreams and greenseer abilities but I think it may be one more piece of evidence to consider in our ongoing Benjen discussions.

The attack by Lannister forces on Yoren and the Night's Watch recruits seems to have been a huge breach of the laws that no one mess with them. Of course one could say that Yoren was getting involved with non Night's Watch matters by protecting Gendry (and Arya to an extent though I don't think the attackers were looking for her). I wonder if knowledge of that ever got out and got back to the Night's Watch. Seems like that would have some impact on how they view Lannister sympathizers. It almost seems like they could attack Lannister friendly types with a justification that it was revenge for that massacre.

Also, I wonder if killing a Night's Watch member and recruits could be seen as being on a level with things like Kingslaying and Kinslaying? It doesn't look like it.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 5/3/13 at 12:40 pm to
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When Yoren stopped at Winterfell on his way from the Wall (Tyrion was accompanying him I think) to King's Landing, he told them about Benjen being missing. Bran was apparently very adamant that Benjen was not dead. I know this was before Bran had really developed his dreams and greenseer abilities but I think it may be one more piece of evidence to consider in our ongoing Benjen discussions.


BENJEN IS THE HOODED MAN GODDDAMMIT.

Yes, I've now come full circle from page 1.

Posted by PsychTiger
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Posted on 5/3/13 at 12:47 pm to
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The attack by Lannister forces on Yoren and the Night's Watch recruits seems to have been a huge breach of the laws that no one mess with them. Of course one could say that Yoren was getting involved with non Night's Watch matters by protecting Gendry (and Arya to an extent though I don't think the attackers were looking for her). I wonder if knowledge of that ever got out and got back to the Night's Watch. Seems like that would have some impact on how they view Lannister sympathizers. It almost seems like they could attack Lannister friendly types with a justification that it was revenge for that massacre.


Don't know how GRRM will do it in the book, but in the show with Melisandre going to the riverlands supposedly to get Gendry, then Gendry could end up at the Wall when Stannis goes there to fight the Wildlings. Nights Watch could then find out about the Lannister attack directly from Gendry.
Posted by shelly
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Posted on 5/3/13 at 1:06 pm to
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The attack by Lannister forces on Yoren and the Night's Watch recruits seems to have been a huge breach of the laws that no one mess with them. Of course one could say that Yoren was getting involved with non Night's Watch matters by protecting Gendry (and Arya to an extent though I don't think the attackers were looking for her). I wonder if knowledge of that ever got out and got back to the Night's Watch. Seems like that would have some impact on how they view Lannister sympathizers. It almost seems like they could attack Lannister friendly types with a justification that it was revenge for that massacre.


I can't really think of anyone who knows about the attack except for maybe the BwB?

Gendry > BwB > Tom of Sevenstrings > Edmure > Blackfish > Ser Desmond Grell and Ser Robin Ryger who are headed to the Wall

Not sure if the attack would have been on their minds when making plans though
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