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re: LSU featured on college football live on ESPN
Posted on 5/25/12 at 3:55 am to King Joey
Posted on 5/25/12 at 3:55 am to King Joey
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Winning one Championship (and cheating to do it) and "dominating" a pre-Oregon rise PAC-10 is about as impressive as Vandy going 4-4 in the SEC.
This is great spin, but you didn't qualify your championships as "in the ESPN era" which began right after USC won it's 1978 Championship. Also, the 2003 split NC happened. The BCS recognizes it as a split and many of your more rational Tiger fans do as well.
As far as trying to tie OJ Mayo and a "tennis chick" to USC football?
Go back to your definition of context.
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Posted on 5/25/12 at 3:59 am to loweralabamatrojan
quote:Uh, no it's not. An agent, hell that's glorifying him. A convicted felon who wanted to be an agent, and his shady bag man was making a deal with Reggie's greedy stepfather.
The coaching staff knew about it and lied. The moment they found out, they had a responsibility to report it, and remove him from playing (since he was ineligible). The fact that they let him keep getting the money, and played him knowing he was getting paid, IS paying a player to play for you.
Reggie should have reported it but didn't. I am sure he knew. As far as the coaches? I can't say for certain whether any of them knew what was going on. San Diego is 100 miles away from USC, so it's not like it was under their noses.
You really need to check your facts there, KJ.
Posted on 5/25/12 at 4:09 am to loweralabamatrojan
quote:I didn't bring up our championships. But, yes, 2 of ours are in that era. In the last decade, in fact.
you didn't qualify your championships as "in the ESPN era"
quote:Consensus equals neither truth nor fact. Never has, never will. The moment the BCS came into existence in 1998, there existed for the first time in major college football a National Championship based directly (to some degree) on the results of games played on the field. At that moment, championships "awarded" by polls became as relevant as national championships awarded by polls in the NFL, NBA, college basketball, college baseball, Div. 1AA football, NHL, etc., etc. I don't care if you (or ESPN, or the BCS, or anyone else, or everyone else) claims otherwise. Opinion is not at issue, here, thus neither is consensus. One championship is won by winning on the field. Championships that are "awarded" by popularity are meaningless in a discussion of what is "earned".
Also, the 2003 split NC happened. The BCS recognizes it as a split and many of your more rational Tiger fans do as well
quote:The context is pretty clear, just as it was to the NCAA. SC won it's National Championship by cheating as part of a general culture of cheating in athletics at the university. The same principles that led to boosters paying off Mayo led to Bush getting bunches of money and other benefits with the coach's and the associate AD's approvals.
As far as trying to tie OJ Mayo and a "tennis chick" to USC football?
Go back to your definition of context
But even if you want to pretend they are relevant in some effort to "be real", then we'd have to bring in the rest of the discussion involving all the allegations that weren't proven. Like Mike Williams getting free rent (again, with the coach's knowledge), for example. If you want to exclude them based on the "context" that they were never sanctioned by the NCAA for that, then you have to accept that Mayo and the tennis chick are related within that same "context".
Posted on 5/25/12 at 2:03 pm to loweralabamatrojan
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The BCS recognizes it as a split and many of your more rational Tiger fans do as well.
Man you had me worried there for a minute. Until I went to the BCS website. Whew. According to their records USC did not play in the BCS championship game that year!
USC is listed as playing in the championship game twice (one win/one lose) and both of those games are listed as vacated for cheating! I searched all their records and according to the BCS website. USC does not get credit for a single title!
But man you had me going to there for a second. I still wasn't satisfied so I drove straight to LSU and sure enough the crystal ball is intact and was never cut in to two pieces. whew!
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