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re: when will LSU get a mens soccer team
Posted on 5/23/12 at 12:06 am to JackTheTiger
Posted on 5/23/12 at 12:06 am to JackTheTiger
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The people in this thread suggesting that they alter the rules of the sport to increase scoring are being ridiculous. A game that has been around for as long as soccer will not just fundamentally alter the rules like that. It would be like asking baseball to play with a 200 foot fence or basketball on an 8 foot goal. It's just laughable.
Its a flawed sport. Tough shite if you have to change it. Its not like there is no precedent for it. Basketball added a 3 point line. Hell, I think the home run should be taken out of baseball. Its not supposed to be a game for fatasses.
Posted on 5/23/12 at 12:09 am to The Mick
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So is hacky sack and disc golf, correct?
Let's not get carried away here. They're both fun to play, but I don't think too many tickets would be sold to watch someone else doing it.
Posted on 5/23/12 at 12:10 am to TheSexecutioner
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Its a flawed sport.
Please elaborate. I would love to hear your thoughts on how to fix it
Posted on 5/23/12 at 12:10 am to udtiger
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Damned shame too. Louisiana has enough "home grown" soccer talent for an LSU men's team to be a serious contender.
No they don't.
Posted on 5/23/12 at 12:11 am to TheSexecutioner
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Its a flawed sport.
Posted on 5/23/12 at 12:16 am to BleedPurpleGold
What's more beautiful than watching some pansy-arse mid-fielder take a dive trying to draw a red card after a thug of a defender showered him with bad breath? Some call it "The Beautiful Game." I call it an inferior game.
Posted on 5/23/12 at 12:19 am to BobLoblaw
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Please elaborate. I would love to hear your thoughts on how to fix it
I've discussed them before on the soccer board. It is too hard to score so it makes way too many possessions meaningless.
To better understand what I mean, compare it to football. In football(american), when you have to punt, you are unable to score. However, the yards you gained(or failed to) on the drive were meaningful. The equivalent of soccer would be if in football anytime you were turned over on downs, the opposition started with the ball on your 20.
Now basketball has this same problem but they alleviate it by high scoring. Because they score such a high percentage, a large enough portion of the plays are meaningful.
A solution would be widening the goals by a small amount.
Posted on 5/23/12 at 12:23 am to TheSexecutioner
There are also many flaws that come from this ridiculous lack of scoring. One bad call ruins a game to an extent that no other sport can experience. A mis-called offside or penalty kick can result in what could easily be the only goal of a game.
The influence of a single ref's call on the game leads to flopping because it is so incredibly valuable to be awarded a free kick/red card.
Imagine a football game being decided because a ref called one pass interference that put a team in FG range. They kick a fg and win the game 3-0.
The influence of a single ref's call on the game leads to flopping because it is so incredibly valuable to be awarded a free kick/red card.
Imagine a football game being decided because a ref called one pass interference that put a team in FG range. They kick a fg and win the game 3-0.
Posted on 5/23/12 at 12:24 am to MondayMorningMarch
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What's more beautiful than watching some pansy-arse mid-fielder take a dive trying to draw a red card after a thug of a defender showered him with bad breath? Some call it "The Beautiful Game." I call it an inferior game.
Sounds like you're describing the NBA. Or hell, now adays even the NFL.
Posted on 5/23/12 at 12:26 am to TheSexecutioner
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Imagine a football game being decided because a ref called one pass interference that put a team in FG range.
This happens all of the time.
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They kick a fg and win the game 3-0.
Or they kick a field goal and win 27-24. What's the difference? Same effect either way.
Posted on 5/23/12 at 12:28 am to TheSexecutioner
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TheSexecutioner
Have you thought about applying for the job of commissioner of the MLS? Actually, frick it, go bigger. How about president of FIFA?
Posted on 5/23/12 at 12:31 am to TheSexecutioner
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A solution would be widening the goals by a small amount.
How about making the goalkeepers shorter? Or we could make them stand on their knees
Posted on 5/23/12 at 12:36 am to BobLoblaw
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How about making the goalkeepers shorter? Or we could make them stand on their knees
No that would be stupid. Sports aren't meant to be corrected by restricting athletes. They are corrected by fine tuning the rules.
Posted on 5/23/12 at 12:42 am to BleedPurpleGold
There is a difference when a referees call accounts for 100% of the scoring than when it accounts for 5%. One is much more easily overcame and thus has a smaller effect on the game.
Since its so much easier to score on a PK, players will forgo trying to score in the field to get a penalty kick. A player in the box will often flop at the cost of giving up the possession of the ball and the chance to score because they understand that even a 20% chance of getting a refs call is going to be better odds of scoring than actually getting it by the goalie.
When is the last time you saw Kobe dribbling down the court and intentionally lose the ball to fake a foul? Or anyone for that matter....
Since its so much easier to score on a PK, players will forgo trying to score in the field to get a penalty kick. A player in the box will often flop at the cost of giving up the possession of the ball and the chance to score because they understand that even a 20% chance of getting a refs call is going to be better odds of scoring than actually getting it by the goalie.
When is the last time you saw Kobe dribbling down the court and intentionally lose the ball to fake a foul? Or anyone for that matter....
Posted on 5/23/12 at 12:46 am to BleedPurpleGold
You seriously think that is a golden comeback? That is so far from the idea I suggested. So many of you soccer fans never want to address an issue someone brings up. You just resort to assuming that the person suggesting change is ill-informed and doesn't understand the sport.
I watch the sport, and I enjoy it. That doesn't mean it can't be fixed.
There are plenty of reasons to not widen the goals. They have been discussed on a different thread and I agree with some of them. You clowns have offered none of those reason though.
I watch the sport, and I enjoy it. That doesn't mean it can't be fixed.
There are plenty of reasons to not widen the goals. They have been discussed on a different thread and I agree with some of them. You clowns have offered none of those reason though.
Posted on 5/23/12 at 1:07 am to TheSexecutioner
More boring to watch... Golf or soccer? I gotta go with soccer.
Posted on 5/23/12 at 1:14 am to TheSexecutioner
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That is so far from the idea I suggested.
Thats because your idea was stupid
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So many of you soccer fans never want to address an issue someone brings up.
I would be happy to address you're ideas if I took them seriously. No offence, I assumed you were trolling but you seem like a nice enough guy.
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You just resort to assuming that the person suggesting change is ill-informed and doesn't understand the sport.
This is almost always the case.
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I watch the sport, and I enjoy it. That doesn't mean it can't be fixed.
Keep watching then. I have a feeling you will come around. The sport is not "flawed", if you keep saying that, people will not take you seriously. Find a club to follow in the EPL for next season or follow the US national team as the try to qualify for the world cup starting this summer.
I agree there are things that can be done to make the sport better. Goal line technology and post match suspensions for foul play such as diving are pretty high up the list for me.
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There are plenty of reasons to not widen the goals. They have been discussed on a different thread and I agree with some of them. You clowns have offered none of those reason though.
You're argument comparing it to football is a bad one IMO. They are two different sports, I'm sorry if you don't like how the game is decided but its been that way since long before American football even existed.
Also, I have never heard an argument to widen the goals that I consider to be even somewhat compelling. Widening the goals is the kind of thing I would have said years ago before I started to watch soccer and had some understanding of the game. This is probably why we assume when somebody has an argument like yours that you are ill informed and don't understand the sport. I don't think you'll find anybody who really regularly watches the sport who would support that idea.
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It is too hard to score so it makes way too many possessions meaningless.
This is a good example to point out how you don't understand the sport. Possesion is supposed to be meaningless, there is one thing that determines the outcome of the game: goals.
This lends to a lot of different approaches to the game. Some teams like to pass it around and keep the ball, they might not create as many chances by being more patient in their approach, but the other team can't score when they don't have the ball.
Some teams like to just play defense and try to score on a counter attack. This is often (but not always) a tactic employed by a team that is considered inferior to their opponent. It's part of what makes the game great. If the tactics are correct and the execution is good, you don't have to be the better team to win the game. All you have to do to win is score more goals than the other team. This is how a team like Chelsea was able to beat Bayern Munich in the Champions League final. Should they have won the game? Probably not, but they took advantage of their relatively few chances and put the ball in the net.
This post was edited on 5/23/12 at 2:00 am
Posted on 5/23/12 at 1:34 am to BobLoblaw
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nobody said it was the most popular sport in every country in the world
It is, however, the most popular sport worldwide.
I replied to the cliche that other the USA, the rest of the world loves soccer. I listed several hugely populated countries aren't enamored w/ soccer either.
Posted on 5/23/12 at 1:44 am to Bayou_Bengal@Irving
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I replied to the cliche that other the USA, the rest of the world loves soccer
When somebody says this you think that they mean literally everyone of the 195 other countries in the world love soccer more than any other sport?
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I listed several hugely populated countries aren't enamored w/ soccer either.
You did. However with most of your examples (India, China, Japan, etc...) soccer is the fastest growing sport in those countries. It has not been as popular in Asia historically but it has really started to boom there as of late. In India they opened the Indian Premier League this year featuring some(mostly well-aged) stars from around the world. People in Asia (China and Japan specifically but the whole region in general) have become soccer crazy ever since the world cup in 2002 in South Korea/Japan. Most English Premier League teams have put a huge focus on targeting that massive market and have spent time on preseason tours of Asia.
I'm not as familiar with Russia but if hockey is on equal terms with soccer as of right now I'd be willing to bet in 10 years time that will no longer be the case. Russian teams have really started to become a force in European soccer (CSKA Moscow, Zenit St. Petersberg, Anzhi) only in recent years.
This post was edited on 5/23/12 at 1:49 am
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