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Won the lottery, building stocked ponds at my plantation

Posted on 4/4/12 at 9:11 am
Posted by TheGreat318
West of Bossier
Member since Feb 2012
1256 posts
Posted on 4/4/12 at 9:11 am
At least this is what I had every intention of doing by Wednesday of this week. Turns out, you actually have to match most or all of the numbers on your ticket to win the lottery. Not sure if thats a state law or what, but they wouldnt budge on it.

Anywho, if you were to build medium sized(maybe 5-8 acre) ponds and, within reason, money was not an option, would you build one for Bass and Bream and one for Catfish and Sacalait? I'm not a doctor, but it seems that when confined to stocked ponds, bass and sacalait do not coexist well.

Any of you know of situations where ponds sustain healthy populations of all four species?

Posted by FelicianaTigerfan
Comanche County
Member since Aug 2009
26059 posts
Posted on 4/4/12 at 9:12 am to
Bass all day long
Posted by thedice20
Member since May 1926
Member since Aug 2008
7550 posts
Posted on 4/4/12 at 9:13 am to
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Any of you know of situations where ponds sustain healthy populations of all four species?


Yes. Not sure what you want to discuss here though.
Posted by Boats n Hose
NOLA
Member since Apr 2011
37248 posts
Posted on 4/4/12 at 9:13 am to
I'd just build one with a bunch of bass and some bream, mostly so the small bream feed the bass. I don't really have a desire for a pond of catfish, and sacalait take shite over.
Posted by 4X4DEMON
NWLA
Member since Dec 2007
11957 posts
Posted on 4/4/12 at 9:14 am to
catfish will be more resilient imo
Posted by TheGreat318
West of Bossier
Member since Feb 2012
1256 posts
Posted on 4/4/12 at 9:19 am to
quote:

Any of you know of situations where ponds sustain healthy populations of all four species?


Just curious to know IF this can work, and if it does, why it works some places and not others?
Posted by Whiskey Richard
Member since May 2011
5924 posts
Posted on 4/4/12 at 9:19 am to
I mean, bass are fun as hell to catch, but if im stocking a pond,i want something i want to eat. And that is sacaperch all day long
Posted by Langston
Member since Nov 2010
7685 posts
Posted on 4/4/12 at 9:25 am to
quote:

Any of you know of situations where ponds sustain healthy populations of all four species?


Yes, I have a 4 acre that does fine. 5-8 will be big enough.
Posted by The Sultan of Brusly
Sweating Bush Ranch, Sonora Tx
Member since Nov 2011
347 posts
Posted on 4/4/12 at 9:25 am to
Sacalait and perch are fun as hell to catch and some of the finest freshwater fish around; well with the exception of Tilapia
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86338 posts
Posted on 4/4/12 at 9:31 am to
quote:

I'm not a doctor, but it seems that when confined to stocked ponds, bass and sacalait do not coexist well.
I did some reading on it because I was curious. It's amazing how consistant the no crappie in ponds thing is. They say it's because in ponds, bass and the perch do not live in the same water long enough for the bass to prey on them. It is recommended that if you must stock the white perch, also stock the hybrid bass since they are also open water fish and will eat anything.
Posted by thedice20
Member since May 1926
Member since Aug 2008
7550 posts
Posted on 4/4/12 at 9:32 am to
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IF this can work, and if it does, why it works some places and not others?



It certainly can and does work. There are so many factors that go into succesful pond planting, it can be quite a challenge to create a viable habitat for all species to thrive.

BTW, if crappie took over my pond, i would NOT have an issue.
Posted by KingRanch
The Ranch
Member since Mar 2012
61726 posts
Posted on 4/4/12 at 9:32 am to
quote:

I did some reading on it because I was curious. It's amazing how consistant the no crappie in ponds thing is. They say it's because in ponds, bass and the perch do not live in the same water long enough for the bass to prey on them. It is recommended that if you must stock the white perch, also stock the hybrid bass since they are also open water fish and will eat anything.


Crappie will take over from what I've been told, I've never stocked a pond so I haven't seen it first hand.
Posted by Winslow
Boondocks
Member since Mar 2012
592 posts
Posted on 4/4/12 at 9:33 am to
My unc has a book he got online that tells all that stuff,,,
Posted by Whiskey Richard
Member since May 2011
5924 posts
Posted on 4/4/12 at 9:34 am to
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KingRanch


Whats your email bro?
Posted by KingRanch
The Ranch
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Posted on 4/4/12 at 9:34 am to
KingRanchtd gmail
Posted by faxis
La.
Member since Oct 2007
7773 posts
Posted on 4/4/12 at 9:35 am to
We have all four species in our pond plus goggleye. If you've got enough cover, it's not a problem. But if one ever gets ahead of the others, you are the only cure other than rotenone.

When we first bought the place it was full of mostly just stunted bass. I caught thousands of them and threw them on the bank. Eventually it leveled off.

The crappie in there are freaking enormous.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86338 posts
Posted on 4/4/12 at 9:35 am to
After year 4, I would simply have a policy that any the white perch caught must be kept or killed.
Posted by Langston
Member since Nov 2010
7685 posts
Posted on 4/4/12 at 9:35 am to
quote:

They say it's because in ponds, bass and the perch do not live in the same water long enough for the bass to prey on them.


There is your answer. Its about size and room. Think about a man made lake. Its nothing more than a big pond and it works. Like I said, it works in my 4 acre pond
Posted by thedice20
Member since May 1926
Member since Aug 2008
7550 posts
Posted on 4/4/12 at 9:36 am to
Crappie are super aggressive as fingerlins and young fishes. I know of a pond that is prolly 90% 8-10" crappie.
They took over this little 3 acre pond.

Small beetle spins and an ultralite + beer+ icechest = great day
Posted by BarDTiger81
nurfeast lowsyana
Member since Jul 2011
15639 posts
Posted on 4/4/12 at 9:36 am to
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sacaperch



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