My favorite part was when he disguised himself and snuck into the evil Nazi factory, while sporting his shiny bright shield with the stars and stripes. And by favorite part I mean the most stupid focking part.

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Posted by Freauxzen

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Posted on 3/9/12 at 3:58 pm to thatguy1892

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Did you not read the full post?

I did, but if you want my reaction:

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That's why DC/WB gave the keys to the DCU to Nolan two years ago. (After, Green Lantern was already in the can.) They are taking no shortcuts with the MofS:Superman. Snyder with the filming and Nolan watching every step made. It's been filming for almost a year now and it's not set for release until next summer. After that I have a feeling they are going to take a swing at Wonder Woman, with the Clash of the Titan team heading that one, seeing as Diana is an "Amazon." Followed by The Flash or, depending how the comics have been selling with the revamp DCU, Swamp Thing. From what I have heard the new Swamp Thing has been very well written so far.

DC/WB have already stated that they wouldn't mind having a JLA but will only do it where none of the other already made character universes do not intertwine. In other words Nolan's Batman will not be part of a JLA.

Maybe, maybe not. What's interesting is that in actual comic books, DC is more hokey generally, more grounded in its roots than Marvel. yet when it comes to the big screen, it seems Marvel has done a better job of translating that effectively.

DC seems to have been scared by the 90's Batmans and the awful Superman Returns movie, so they are going the opposite direction, especially if they get Nolan to oversee the whole thing.

Not every Superhero is going to work in that kind of gritty reality. Some are going to seem downright stupid.

In effect, Marvel has proved a lot with X-Men: FC (which is the superior blending of the 2 media outlets) and seems to be on the right track with the Avengers.

I hope DC can put together some great films, but I don't see WW working out in Batman's reality. Does anyone remember that TV show?

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On March 10, 2010, Nolan confirmed that he and David Goyer have been working on an idea for a Superman film. Nolan says, "He basically told me, 'I have this thought about how you would approach Superman.' I immediately got it, loved it and thought: That is a way of approaching the story I’ve never seen before that makes it incredibly exciting. I wanted to get Emma and I involved in shepherding the project right away and getting it to the studio and getting it going in an exciting way… A lot of people have approached Superman in a lot of different ways. I only know the way that has worked for us that’s what I know how to do." Although Zack Snyder is directing,[28] Nolan will have significant creative input in the process.

You took my statement far too literally. Of course he is looking after Superman, which HAS to be more "comic booky" than Batman.

But the Batman films are not comic book movies, they are crime thrillers. And he's also more of a producer. I'm interested in Snyder's hand in the project more so than Nolan's actually. Or at least, the merging of the two perspectives.

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Posted by thatguy1892

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Posted on 3/9/12 at 5:52 pm to Freauxzen

Agee for the most part.

As for Wonder Woman. Movie funding > TV funding. Plus (again) Nolan/Thomas/Goyer > anyone else.

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Posted by TigerMyth36

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Posted on 3/9/12 at 6:03 pm to NLabosstiger

I liked the beginning and most of the middle of the movie.

I just felt the enhanced weaponry and cosmic cube angle were silly. If Red Skull could build stealth bombers and lasers, he really never even needed the cosmic cube to conquer the world.

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Posted by alajones

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Posted on 3/9/12 at 7:17 pm to kingbob

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Captain America wasn't bad. A little hokey, but not bad.

I thought it was good enough. When they started fighting in Europe it looked more like a video game or a cartoon. Plus, these idiosyncratic characters just kind of showed up and joined his team with no development or presentation at all. Some of them actually looked interesting.

Besides knowing that he started in WW2 and he was killed off in Iraq to protest the war, I know nothing of Cap.

I IMHO X Men 2 is the best comic book movie ever made.

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Posted by alajones

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Posted on 3/9/12 at 7:17 pm to TigerMyth36

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If Red Skull could build stealth bombers and lasers, he really never even needed the cosmic cube to conquer the world.

You just described most movie villains. The Bond ones were especially puzzling.

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Posted by PattyRay38

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Posted on 3/10/12 at 10:24 pm to boxcarbarney

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The Hulk was worse. I hated how his strike team had to include every ethnicity, and it wasnt reallu the Nazis he was fighting.

I will have to admit, this posting in the forum is one of the first I have seen where seemingly an overwhelming percentage of people hated Captain America. On a number of comic book/comic book movie forums, Captain America was considered a high point of comic book movies from summer 2011 and I personally loved it, more so than Green Lantern, which I really wanted to be a better movie, being that I am a major DC fan. In regards to this above quote, flat out, if you hated the movie version of the Howling Commandos, then you must hate the work of Stan Lee and Jack Kirby. Those two created the H.C., and when they were created back in the 1960s, guess what, they were a multi-cultural melting pot of soldiers. The Cap movie pretty much translated the Commandos verbatim, so I really can't understand your complaint, because that means you dislike the source material, and if you dislike the source material, then you shouldn't be watching a film adapted from it.

Sorry if that sounds like me being an a-hole. It's just that, as a true, 25+ year comic book fan, when a filmmaker actually adapts something to the screen correctly from its comic book source, it irritates me when people shite on it. Case in point: people, even reviewers like Roger Evert, crapping on the concept of the Green Lantern Corps in the Green Lantern movie. Hate the film for its actual flaws, but don't hate on something the film did RIGHT!

Anyway, back to Captain America. Like I said, for me, I really didn't see any major flaws in this film, especially not ones that would make me want to walk out of the theater. For one, yes, this was a first movie in a potential series of films (not including The Avengers). The first half needed to be spent setting up Steve Rogers and his becoming Cap. The second half, which a lot of people seemed to hate, well, it didn't flow any worse than any second half of any first Superhero film. Hero is set up as Hero, film zips through a montage of action sequences, then gets to the final fight with the bad guy of the film. Superman: The Movie did the EXACT same thing and people still consider that film one of if not THE pinnacle of comic book films.

Cap fighting Hydra instead of Nazis? Well aside from the fact that Hydra IS an offshoot of the Nazis, this works well enough for a film not telling an actual historical WWII story. And Hydra has looooooong been foes of Captain America. Plus, and I think some of the filmmakers have stated this, the montage allows for any potential sequel to flash back to some WWII stories, which would allow a sequel to have Cap and the Howling Commandos fighting actual Nazis.

Ok, enough ranting.

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Posted on 3/11/12 at 1:23 am to Patrick O Rly

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I enjoyed it

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Posted on 3/11/12 at 1:36 am to PattyRay38

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Superman: The Movie did the EXACT same thing and people still consider that film one of if not THE pinnacle of comic book films.

I know I'm going to get blasted for this, but the Superman movies sucked. I liked them as a kid, but if you got back and watch them now, they are terrible

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Posted by John McClane

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Posted on 3/11/12 at 1:48 am to Dab

I agree.

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Posted by BOSCEAUX

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Posted on 3/11/12 at 1:56 am to Dab

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I liked them as a kid, but if you got back and watch them now, they are terrible

Terrible in story or terrible in effects. I can agree with the effects protion but hell it was made a long fricking time ago. And this only applies to the first one, I did not like any of the sequals.

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Posted by Freauxzen

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Posted on 3/11/12 at 8:04 am to PattyRay38

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Plus, and I think some of the filmmakers have stated this, the montage allows for any potential sequel to flash back to some WWII stories, which would allow a sequel to have Cap and the Howling Commandos fighting actual Nazis.

Would be awesome.

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Live-actionYear Film Publisher Distributor Worldwide Gross Notes
1951 Superman and the Mole Men DC Comics
1966 Batman DC Comics
1978 Superman DC Comics Warner Bros.
1980 Superman II DC Comics Warner Bros.
1981 Condorman Original Walt Disney Pictures
1983 Superman III DC Comics Warner Bros.
1984 Supergirl DC Comics TriStar Pictures, Warner Bros.
1987 Superman IV: The Quest for Peace DC Comics Warner Bros.
1989 Batman DC Comics Warner Bros.
1989 The Punisher Marvel Comics Artisan Entertainment
1990 Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Mirage Studios New Line Cinema
1990 Dick Tracy Tribune Media Services Touchstone Pictures
1990 Darkman Original Universal Studios
1990 Captain America Marvel Comics 21st Century Film Corporation
1991 Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles II: The Secret of the Ooze Mirage Studios New Line Cinema
1991 The Rocketeer Pacific Comics Walt Disney Pictures
1992 Batman Returns DC Comics Warner Bros.
1993 Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles III Mirage Studios New Line
1993 The Meteor Man Original Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer
1994 The Fantastic Four Marvel Comics Constantin Film
1994 The Shadow Street and Smith Publications Universal Studios
1994 The Mask Dark Horse Comics New Line Cinema
1995 Batman Forever DC Comics Warner Bros.
1995 Mighty Morphin Power Rangers: The Movie Original 20th Century Fox
1995 Darkman II: The Return of Durant Original Universal Studios
1996 The Phantom Various Paramount Pictures
1996 Darkman III: Die, Darkman, Die Original Universal Studios
1997 Turbo: A Power Rangers Movie Original 20th Century Fox
1997 Batman & Robin DC Comics Warner Bros.
1997 Spawn Image Comics New Line Cinema
1997 Steel DC Comics Warner Bros.
1998 Blade Marvel Comics New Line Cinema
1999 Mystery Men Dark Horse Comics Universal Pictures
2000 X-Men Marvel Comics 20th Century Fox
2000 The Specials Original Regent Entertainment
2000 Unbreakable Original Touchstone Pictures
2002 Blade II Marvel Comics New Line Cinema
2002 Spider-Man Marvel Comics Columbia Pictures
2003 Daredevil Marvel Comics 20th Century Fox
2003 X2: X-Men United Marvel Comics 20th Century Fox
2003 Hulk Marvel Comics Universal Studios
2003 The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen WildStorm/DC Comics 20th Century Fox
2004 Hellboy Dark Horse Comics Columbia Pictures
2004 The Punisher Marvel Comics Lionsgate
2004 Spider-Man 2 Marvel Comics Columbia Pictures
2004 Catwoman DC Comics Warner Bros.
2004 Blade: Trinity Marvel Comics New Line Cinema
2005 Elektra Marvel Comics 20th Century Fox
2005 Son of the Mask Dark Horse Comics New Line Cinema
2005 The Adventures of Sharkboy and Lavagirl in 3-D Original Columbia Pictures
2005 Batman Begins DC Comics Warner Bros.
2005 Fantastic Four Marvel Comics 20th Century Fox
2005 Sky High Original Walt Disney Pictures
2006 X-Men: The Last Stand Marvel Comics 20th Century Fox
2006 Superman Returns DC Comics Warner Bros.
2006 My Super Ex-Girlfriend Original 20th Century Fox
2006 Lightspeed Original Nu Image Films Direct-to-video Created by Stan Lee
2006 Zoom Original Sony Pictures
2007 Ghost Rider Marvel Comics Columbia Pictures
2007 Spider-Man 3 Marvel Comics Columbia Pictures
2007 Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer Marvel Comics 20th Century Fox
2007 Underdog Various Walt Disney Pictures
2008 Superhero Movie Original Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer
2008 Iron Man Marvel Comics Paramount Pictures
2008 The Incredible Hulk Marvel Comics Universal Studios
2008 Hancock Original Columbia Pictures
2008 Hellboy II: The Golden Army Dark Horse Comics Universal Studios
2008 The Dark Knight DC Comics Warner Bros.
2008 Punisher: War Zone Marvel Comics Lionsgate
2008 The Spirit DC Comics Lionsgate
2009 Watchmen DC Comics Warner Bros.
2009 X-Men Origins: Wolverine Marvel Comics 20th Century Fox
2010 Kick-arse Icon Comics/Marvel Comics Lionsgate
2010 Iron Man 2 Marvel Comics Paramount Pictures
2010 Jonah Hex DC Comics Warner Bros.
2011 The Green Hornet Holyoke Publishing/NOW Comics Columbia Pictures
2011 Thor Marvel Comics Paramount Pictures
2011 X-Men: First Class Marvel Comics 20th Century Fox
2011 Green Lantern DC Comics Warner Bros.
2011 Captain America: The First Avenger Marvel Comics Paramount Pictures
2012 Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance Marvel Comics Columbia Pictures
2012 The Avengers Marvel Comics Walt Disney Pictures Post-production
2012 The Amazing Spider-Man Marvel Comics Columbia Pictures Reboot of Spider-Man
2012 The Dark Knight Rises DC Comics Warner Bros. 2008's sequel
2013 Man of Steel DC Comics Warner Bros. Reboot of Superman

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