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re: Top Shot inspired: M1 carbine
Posted on 2/17/12 at 12:54 pm to offshoretrash
Posted on 2/17/12 at 12:54 pm to offshoretrash
The M1 30 Carbine was a common round in deer hunting camps of SW in the 60's. It accounted for a LOT of shot ammo and wounded deer. Pretty anemic as a rifle hunting round. Many years ago I had an AMT semi-auto handgun chambered in 30 Carbine. Accuracy was so-so. Recoil was light, but man, it produced a heck of a fireball. Velocity w/ 110 grain bullets was around 140-1500 fps at the muzzle, IIRC. Didn't keep the pistol long before selling it. I think I still have the dies.
The 30 Carbine was developed as a personal defense weapon for certain personnel during WW2 in place of the heavier M14 Garand.
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The 30 Carbine was developed as a personal defense weapon for certain personnel during WW2 in place of the heavier M14 Garand.
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Posted on 2/19/12 at 7:50 pm to TigerOnThe Hill
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The M1 30 Carbine was a common round in deer hunting camps of SW in the 60's. It accounted for a LOT of shot ammo and wounded deer. Pretty anemic as a rifle hunting round.
All this is correct -- but in it's my understanding that most of these hunters used ball ammo (readily available, especially mil-surp ammo) ........ certainly not a good choice for deer hunting.
However, if the M1 Carbine is loaded with good HP ammo (such as CorBon DPX) you get a different story. It's still inferior to a .308 or .30-06, but for self defense, it's far superior to virtually any pistol in the common (9mm, .40 S&W, and .45 ACP) calibers.
The DPX .30 Carbine ammo has muzzle velocity (out of 18" bbl) of 2025 ft/sec. It has a muzzle energy of 911 ft. pounds, which is about double that of the DPX .357 Magnum. (Surprisingly, the energy of the DPX 30 Cal. Carbine is greater at 150 yards than the muzzle energy of the DPX .357 Magnum round.)
Anyway ..... not saying the M1 carbine is the greatest self defense weapon out there. It's not even close. BUT, it's a pretty good home defense weapon and a good "truck gun" if the democrats ever start rioting like they did after the Rodney King verdict. Very light recoil, very easy to maneuver in confined spaces (like a car or truck), quick follow-up shots, 15 round mags (30 round mags are available as well) and pretty good accuracy out to 150 yards.
For grins I mounted an Aimpoint T-1 on one of my M1 carbines. If you try this, you should never take your wife, or kids, or grandkids out when you shoot it. They will shoot every round of ammo you have and beg you to get more. Virtually no recoil, not nearly as loud as an AR15, and it hits where they aim.
This post was edited on 2/19/12 at 8:03 pm
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