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LSU basketball recruiting woes in New Orleans
Posted on 2/9/12 at 3:10 pm
Posted on 2/9/12 at 3:10 pm
LSU has done a horrendous job of recruiting the City of New Orleans in basketball, going back to Dale Brown and the 1970s. The statistics are shocking, even to someone who has followed it closely and experienced it recruiting loss after painful recruiting loss. From Melvin Simon to Kerry Kittles to Greg Monroe, the list spans decades.
Little known fact: since Jordy Hultberg played at LSU from 1976-1980, LSU has signed two high school players from the City of New Orleans: Randy Livingston (Newman, 1992) and Tim Bush (Shaw, 2003). Duane Spencer (Cohen) transferred from Georgetown.
Extending outside of the city doesn't really help the case either, as that only adds 4 players:
Theron Cojoe (Destrehan, 1982)
Torris Bright (Slidell 1999)
Eddie Ludwig (Metarie Country Day 2009)
Matt Derenbecker (Metarie Country Day 2010)
Regardless of whether Trent Johnson remains the coach, or someone new comes in: For LSU basketball to rise to a high level, New Orleans must be locked down. What or who will it take to accomplish this?
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Posted on 2/9/12 at 3:11 pm to Bubba Hotep
Can Frank Wilson coach basketball?
Posted on 2/9/12 at 3:21 pm to Bubba Hotep
I just don't think NOLA is the hoops hotbed now you think it is. Every now and then we get a big time star but any 5star is going to go to a school where an established program is already in place (and on ESPN a lot), because they are one and done.
I agree that LSU needs to get a presence here again, and that means regularly playing some games in the NO Arena, maybe one or two a year, so these kids can be exposed to LSU basketball. We probably won't get the 5stars, but we should get the next tier of player.
And it wouldn't hurt if we somehow got Shaq involved with the program in some way, at least locally. There's just not much buzz about the team, even though they've improved since last season.
Lastly, this is football country. No one pays attention to basketball until LSU and the Saints are over, then it's Mardi Gras time. It's a hard fact, but true. Don't really know what the answer is, other than head up to Indiana and get whoever the Big 10 schools don't want.
I agree that LSU needs to get a presence here again, and that means regularly playing some games in the NO Arena, maybe one or two a year, so these kids can be exposed to LSU basketball. We probably won't get the 5stars, but we should get the next tier of player.
And it wouldn't hurt if we somehow got Shaq involved with the program in some way, at least locally. There's just not much buzz about the team, even though they've improved since last season.
Lastly, this is football country. No one pays attention to basketball until LSU and the Saints are over, then it's Mardi Gras time. It's a hard fact, but true. Don't really know what the answer is, other than head up to Indiana and get whoever the Big 10 schools don't want.
Posted on 2/9/12 at 4:47 pm to Bubba Hotep
Honest question. Besides Greg Monroe and Gathers, what five star stud type basketball players have come out of New Orleans in the last 5-8 years?
If I was TJ, I wouldn't overlook Frank Wilson to help recruit some New Orleans basketball players. (Maybe just to put in a good work or show him around the schools while he's down there.)Wilson was the Director of Athletics for the New Orleans Public School System so I'm sure he knows some basketball coaches and people like that as well as recruiting football players that basketball as well.
I really don't know why TJ didn't just hire Gathers' AAU coach for an administratvie position or something.
If I was TJ, I wouldn't overlook Frank Wilson to help recruit some New Orleans basketball players. (Maybe just to put in a good work or show him around the schools while he's down there.)Wilson was the Director of Athletics for the New Orleans Public School System so I'm sure he knows some basketball coaches and people like that as well as recruiting football players that basketball as well.
I really don't know why TJ didn't just hire Gathers' AAU coach for an administratvie position or something.
Posted on 2/9/12 at 5:35 pm to Bubba Hotep
Who is this Bo McCalebb you are talking about? Do you mean the Macedonian national team star? Why would a Macedonian go to LSU? 
ETA: Damnit, the board doesn't recognize Cyrillic spellings
But seriously, NO has had some good under the radar guys like McCalebb, Granger, and Foster, as well as some higher profile guys like DJ Augustin, Duhon, and Monroe. Obviously those guys can't be blamed on Trent, but you have to hope that Craig Victor will be a high priority target after LSU lost Felix and Gathers this year.
ETA: Damnit, the board doesn't recognize Cyrillic spellings
But seriously, NO has had some good under the radar guys like McCalebb, Granger, and Foster, as well as some higher profile guys like DJ Augustin, Duhon, and Monroe. Obviously those guys can't be blamed on Trent, but you have to hope that Craig Victor will be a high priority target after LSU lost Felix and Gathers this year.
This post was edited on 2/9/12 at 5:42 pm
Posted on 2/9/12 at 8:43 pm to Bubba Hotep
Basketball recruiting is remarkably national. It's like this everywhere.
That's mostly for the better players though, as for role players I'm unsure why LSU doesn't seem like a better option.
That's mostly for the better players though, as for role players I'm unsure why LSU doesn't seem like a better option.
Posted on 2/12/12 at 11:25 pm to Bubba Hotep
These are the NBA players out of N.O. (& area) high schools since 1975:
Rick Robey - Kentucky
James Ray - Jacksonville Univ.
Avery Johnson - Southern
Donald Royal - Notre Dame
Jaren Jackson - Georgetown
Robert Pack - USC
Eldridge Recasner - Washington
Randy Livingston - LSU
Kerry Kittles - Villanova
Gerard King - Nicholls State
Dedric Willoughby - Iowa State
Chris Duhon - Duke
Danny Granger - New Mexico
DJ Augustin* - Texas
Greg Monroe - Georgetown
15 in 37 years or about 1 every 2.5 years. Only about 1 every 5 years was very highly recruited out of high school. But LSU has missed on all but Livingston.
Rick Robey - Kentucky
James Ray - Jacksonville Univ.
Avery Johnson - Southern
Donald Royal - Notre Dame
Jaren Jackson - Georgetown
Robert Pack - USC
Eldridge Recasner - Washington
Randy Livingston - LSU
Kerry Kittles - Villanova
Gerard King - Nicholls State
Dedric Willoughby - Iowa State
Chris Duhon - Duke
Danny Granger - New Mexico
DJ Augustin* - Texas
Greg Monroe - Georgetown
15 in 37 years or about 1 every 2.5 years. Only about 1 every 5 years was very highly recruited out of high school. But LSU has missed on all but Livingston.
Posted on 2/13/12 at 1:52 pm to Bubba Hotep
Heard a caller on WWL last week suggest adding Randy Livingston to the staff to help with nola recruiting. I know he's the head coach of a d league team, but is adding Livingston to the staff something realistic or would he appear as a threat to Trent Johnson?
Here is an article on Livingston from last summer.
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Here is an article on Livingston from last summer.
LINK
quote:
but he would be willing to coach or to be an assistant at LSU if the opportunity arose.
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