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re: Explain to me the +1 scenario

Posted on 2/8/12 at 9:53 am to
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 2/8/12 at 9:53 am to
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well, Bama would have had to play another game as well.
There is no realistic scenario in this universe, under our laws of physics, that Bama would have lost to Oklahoma State. All it would have done is make us feel better about having to play them again. LSU and Bama were just that much better than everyone else this year. Every other team had multiple close wins (or straight up losses) against inferior opponents. None of LSU's or Bama's games were even close, except when we played each other. This year, no matter whether we used a +1 or a 64-team playoff or the regular BCS system, LSU and Bama would have played for the title. Period. The sooner we realize all that, and accept the fact that the clearcut best two teams played for the title, as it should have been, the better.
This post was edited on 2/8/12 at 9:56 am
Posted by Brinner
Retirement home
Member since May 2008
2656 posts
Posted on 2/8/12 at 10:05 am to
This year would have been great for a "Plus 1." Bama beats LSU. Now Bama is #1 and LSU #2, so they would have played for a 3rd time in the Plus 1 game. It would have been awesome, the world would have exploded.
Posted by ELVIS U
Member since Feb 2007
10228 posts
Posted on 2/8/12 at 10:18 am to
Technically, if 1 plays 2 after the bowls, we would have a second rematch with Bama ( we were still #2 after the game). The teams should be seeded therefore.
Posted by tickfawtiger
Killian LA
Member since Sep 2005
11172 posts
Posted on 2/8/12 at 10:23 am to
ESPN's "darlings".....So. Cal,N.Dame and ANY non BCS team{s} which are undefeated....simple formula !
Posted by just me
Front of the Class: Schooling You
Member since Mar 2006
34489 posts
Posted on 2/8/12 at 10:23 am to
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This year would have been great for a "Plus 1." Bama beats LSU. Now Bama is #1 and LSU #2, so they would have played for a 3rd time in the Plus 1 game. It would have been awesome, the world would have exploded.
This is correct.

This post was edited on 2/8/12 at 10:26 am
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59283 posts
Posted on 2/8/12 at 10:23 am to
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The sooner we realize all that, and accept the fact that the clearcut best two teams played for the title, as it should have been, the better.


Nice little speech there, but its completely irrelevant.

I was responding to someone that said LSU would have to beat another top 5 team to win the NC and if there was a 4 team playoff, then Alabama would have had to play some one top 5 as well. While I agree Bama was better than OSU and LSU was better than Stanford, we could sit here all day and list teams that no one thought could possibly win that did.
Posted by RANDY44
Member since Aug 2005
9572 posts
Posted on 2/8/12 at 12:52 pm to
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+1 implies that you play the bowl games as we have always done, and then take top 2 teams after that. The problem is that there is no control of bowl matchups due to bowl tie-ins.

Exactly; which is why it hasn't happened yet. The four team playoff would NOT be a plus one at all.
Posted by ChuckM
Lafayette
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 2/8/12 at 1:51 pm to
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Yes. Another way to have a true +1 is to have LSU sit since there was no doubt about #1. Bama plays OK State to see who plays LSU. That's a +1 and not a playoff. Similar thing in '03.


This was my thought exactly.
Posted by just me
Front of the Class: Schooling You
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 2/8/12 at 1:59 pm to
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Bama plays OK State to see who plays LSU. That's a +1 and not a playoff.
That's a playoff with a bye.
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