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Posted on 2/4/12 at 2:11 pm to Champagne
What do you suggest they should have done that would have WORKED against that defense? They were a step ahead of everyone all season, LSU included. That was a defense loaded with experienced players backed by the best defensive coach in football. No one is going to move the ball and score a lot of points against a defense like that one.
This post was edited on 2/4/12 at 2:13 pm
Posted on 2/4/12 at 2:12 pm to nhbboy
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The reality is that there was probably no gameplan that would have worked against Alabama's defense with any level of success.
No game plan that refuses to throw a forward pass to your NFL receiver that was used as a blocking dummy instead.
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In 2 games spanning 9 quarters LSU's offense average 4.5 pts a game and failed to score a single touchdown.
But I was told that Jordan Jefferson put LSU on his back and led them to victory vs Bama on Nov. 5th? You mean to tell me that his claim to fame is leading LSU to 6 points in 3 quarters the first time?
Posted on 2/4/12 at 2:14 pm to Choupique19
LSU's best chance was to play field position football and hope for some breaks. They had a superior punter and kicker but the defense gave up too many yards to Alabama's offense and got behind in the field position battle all game. When you have two good defenses the field position battle is critical and LSU lost that battle soundly. Alabama had better field position all game and got the turnovers they needed to make breaks in a defensive battle.
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Posted on 2/4/12 at 2:16 pm to Champagne
It's funny how before the game half of you frickers were saying that JJ should play because we will need his "speed and option play" to get around the edges vs the "slow" bama defense. Post game however you were all calling Les Miles an idiot for doing the same thing half of you agreed on. The Rant always knows best though
Posted on 2/4/12 at 2:16 pm to Choupique19
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No game plan that refuses to throw a forward pass to your NFL receiver that was used as a blocking dummy instead.
That's Is actually false. Kleinpeter's (times picayune) review of the game tape talked about how several pass plays we're called to all different receivers, but Jefferson wasn't getting rid of the ball.
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Posted on 2/4/12 at 2:21 pm to BeeFense5
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Kleinpeter's (times picayune) review of the game tape talked about how several pass plays we're called to all different receivers, but Jefferson wasn't getting rid of the ball.
This is correct. Game plan not the same, just couldn't execute the one they implemented.
Doesn't give anyone a pass but it does show those who keep screaming about the same gameplan don't know what the frick they are talking about
Posted on 2/4/12 at 2:22 pm to Adam4LSU
By 4th Q it was obvious as a pig in slop that this option play was being covered and no longer effective so maby a change to like a QB that could throw some quick slants/downfield passes to loosen the Bama D just a bit and not have them just lickin their chops at the LOS every play?
Posted on 2/4/12 at 2:24 pm to filmmaker45
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He's right. Everyone who has said the same thing has been.
I know I'm not on here as much as some of you but I haven't seen/heard a poster on this site or a fan irl say that it wasn't crazy or arrogant or stupid.
Posted on 2/4/12 at 2:27 pm to BeeFense5
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That's Is actually false. Kleinpeter's (times picayune) review of the game tape talked about how several pass plays we're called to all different receivers, but Jefferson wasn't getting rid of the ball.
...and we didn't change quarterback's because?????
Jefferson't feet weren't going to save us. It was ridiculous that LSU counted on Jefferson scrambling for first downs (not designed runs). Those aren't plays that you can depend on. But yet, our "coaching staff" had the ultimate belief in him.
Posted on 2/4/12 at 2:28 pm to Choupique19
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Les Miles truly thought he would win 9-6 again. He was playing super conservative and he thought his quarterback not passing the ball would not be an issue. Les Miles was waiting for the defense to create a turnover or for the special teams to run a punt back. He was perfectly content with playing field position, even when down by double digit points.
We need freek and one of the admins to work on a super-fricking-duper kige emote.
Posted on 2/4/12 at 2:29 pm to jhhingle
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By 4th Q it was obvious as a pig in slop that this option play was being covered and no longer effective so maby a change to like a QB that could throw some quick slants/downfield passes to loosen the Bama D just a bit and not have them just lickin their chops at the LOS every play?
It was obvious by 10 minutes into the game dude. No matter what LSU threw at that defense that night, they would not and could not have won. This is what LSU fans need to realize. That was a very pissed off Bama team that was just as good if not better than LSU. How people are still hurt over this game is beyond me. Most of you are over 30-40 years over and are acting like little girls.
Posted on 2/4/12 at 2:34 pm to Adam4LSU
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No matter what LSU threw at that defense that night, they would not and could not have won.
Bull freaking ****
LSU defense held Bama to field goals for most of the night. We didn't need to score 35 points, but if we just could have mustered any offense, any at all, we could have won something like 20-17, 17-13. Bama's defense was great, but our offense was atrocious. What coach in America would run a 3rd and 4 fullback dive when down by 15 points in the 4th quarter? Fact is, our quarterback was severly limited, and our "coaches" (I keep using that in quotes cause I really think it was just one coach, the one with the most authority) that refused to give any other quarterback a chance to loosen the defense up.
Posted on 2/4/12 at 2:36 pm to ffhouston
I know how we all feel but we have to get over it- if CLM really cares he will pull out all the stops this year and make another run at the BCS> We have the talent- the question will be will CLM have the same penchant he had last year
Posted on 2/4/12 at 2:38 pm to ATLTiger
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the same game plan would've involved Jarrett Lee.
Atleast some people here watched the game.
Posted on 2/4/12 at 2:40 pm to Choupique19
Alabama outplayed LSU in both games but the first game LSU's superior special teams got the job done. In the NCG they lost the field position battle all game and thus the special teams could not become a factor. LSU had a better punter and kicker than Alabama but they were non factors because of the field position battle. LSU had to win the field position and turnover battle because there was no offensive gameplan that was going to the get the better of that defense.
This post was edited on 2/4/12 at 2:43 pm
Posted on 2/4/12 at 2:43 pm to Adam4LSU
The reality of how bad thing were didn't settle in until Richardson scored. All game the offense was dreadful. The playcalling was torture, but through it all I think we all thought (until Richardson's TD) that LSU would resurface. Despite how bad it was, despite how awful the game had been LSU was going to make a late appearance. After Richardson's TD it all started to come into focus.
It was 15-0 and I kept thinking. Tigers are going to score somehow and then get one final shot trailing 15-7.
But that never happened.
It was 15-0 and I kept thinking. Tigers are going to score somehow and then get one final shot trailing 15-7.
But that never happened.
Posted on 2/4/12 at 2:45 pm to Choupique19
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but if we just could have mustered any offense, any at all, we could have won something like 20-17, 17-13
I didn't realize we had that kind of offense the first time and we had a pretty solid gameplan This year was not our year. We needed a solid SEC QB and we didn't have one. We got em next year
People can speculate all they want about if Lee had a shot, I'm 110% positive Saban had a defensive plan for both QB's. To expect him to have only gameplanned around Jefferson is being insanely naive. That was a PISSED off Bama team that was sick and tired of hearing about LSU and Nov 5th.
This post was edited on 2/4/12 at 2:48 pm
Posted on 2/4/12 at 2:46 pm to nhbboy
Running the damn option over and over was the gameplan.
Biggest coaching failure ever in the history of college football. 92 yards? Come on, man.
Biggest coaching failure ever in the history of college football. 92 yards? Come on, man.
Posted on 2/4/12 at 2:50 pm to stapuffmarshy
This. JJ couldn't execute it. Guys were open, ball wasn't there due to qb play.
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