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re: 09 or 11 Saints???
Posted on 1/3/12 at 10:31 am to Midget Death Squad
Posted on 1/3/12 at 10:31 am to Midget Death Squad
quote:
11 offense is just slightly better than 09
I disagree with that. I think they're way better all around.
Graham > Shockey
Sproles > Bush
2011 Brees > 2009 Brees
2011 O-line > 2009 O-line
Posted on 1/3/12 at 10:37 am to Patrick O Rly
quote:
Graham > Shockey
Sproles > Bush
2011 Brees > 2009 Brees
2011 O-line > 2009 O-line
agreed
Posted on 1/3/12 at 10:44 am to Patrick O Rly
quote:
Like I said, far superior. I never said our '09 D was great, but it goes to show just how bad our '11 one is. Plus our '09 D played very well when it counted... playoffs and SB.
you're right. I won't argue that they were far superior in the turnover department.
But overall it looks like the same D in many ways.
plus I feel the 11' D has stepped it up as of late.
This post was edited on 1/3/12 at 10:48 am
Posted on 1/3/12 at 1:30 pm to Patrick O Rly
quote:
I disagree with that. I think they're way better all around.
Graham > Shockey
Sproles > Bush
2011 Brees > 2009 Brees
2011 O-line > 2009 O-line
'09 WR's >>> '11 WR's
.... yes they were the same bunch, but this year as well as last they have not gotten seperation and performed as well. Devery and Meachem have been virtual non-factors.
I wouldn't say Brees is any worse or better now than he was then. He's the same great QB. Yes he broke a record, but that is because....
'09 Running game > than '11. Brees wasn't throwing as much, because our run game was much more consistent. This is more a product of playcalling consistency rather than personell. With the Carolina game aside, we run the ball too inconsistently this year. The ypc numbers are a bit skewed by this, because teams can give a shite less about defending our run; we rarely run twice in a row. '09 we were 7th in league for attempts/game, this year 20th. The run pass ratio in '09 was 46% run/ 54% pass; whereas, the R/P this year is 39%/61%.
The problem in a matchup like this is that an opportunistic defense ('09) will create the turnovers necessary to put a predictable offense away. Basically, it would be a repeat of the '09 SB, but the '11 saints would be playing the role of the '09 Colts.
ETA: on paper I believe this team to be more talented overall, but the Eagles say that doesn't mean shite. For whatever reason, this year's team isn't producing the way it should be on defense, and the coaches aren't running as consistent as they should.
But it's a good point someone brought up somewhere that we have held opponents to under 20 points since the bye week. If that's the case, then there's more praise that should be given to the D than I am currently giving. However, I have been majorly dissapointed in our turnover ratio this year.
This post was edited on 1/3/12 at 1:34 pm
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