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re: MVP voting: Adam Schefter says...

Posted on 1/2/12 at 4:24 pm to
Posted by oilfieldtiger
Pittsburgh, PA
Member since Dec 2003
2904 posts
Posted on 1/2/12 at 4:24 pm to
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yeah, he's just the most nationally renowned NFL writer there is. no good at all.
i'm not questioning whether he's nationally renown or not, and he's obviously respected enough to be given a vote for AP awards and the HOF. however, i don't care for him. nearly every week he will contradict himself within the column. he spends a huge amount of column space talking about everything but football (like coffee, the hardships of being a traveling member of the media staying in fine hotels and eating on expense accounts, or the red sox).

one of his arguments in rodgers' favor is that the packers won the head-to-head matchup. ignoring the fact that brees had at least as good a game (32/49 for 419 and 3 TD's vs. 27/35 for 312 and 3 TD's). he also states that he doesn't want statistics to unduly affect the vote, and goes on to seemingly penalize brees for throwing the ball more times than rodgers.

FWIW, i'm cool w/ brees or rodgers winning or splitting (i'd obviously prefer brees gets a share but they're both awesome). what's really annoying is when king breaks down hall of fame discussions. but thank goodness he keeps writing so KSK can keep eviscerating it.
This post was edited on 1/2/12 at 4:32 pm
Posted by chipd
Seattle
Member since Jul 2011
373 posts
Posted on 1/2/12 at 6:19 pm to
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quote: It is crap that AR is probably going to win the MVP. this is pure ignorance. how is it "crap" to give the MVP to a QB who sets the record for QB Rating (122.5!!!!), has a 45-6 TD/INT ratio (Brees is 46-14), and a 9.2 YPA (Brees is 8.3)????


I admit that "crap" is a bit strong. I do feel that AR is the only other consideration, but I feel Brees deserves it more. He has set records that earned all the the previous holders the MVP.
Rodgers has a higher QB rating, but the QBR rating is a much better stat. It accounts for among other things, interceptions that are not the QB's fault, such as bouncing off a receivers hands, or the receiver blowing the route. Rodgers QBR is 1 point above Drew, a practical draw. Rodgers advantage comes from running the ball. I am not knocking this as a skill...just pointing out a fact.
When you notice how Flynn was able to succeed in the offense, it makes a person wonder about Rodgers value. Look back on 2008 when Brady was out and the Patriots won 10 games. Now look at the Colts without Manning. Who do you think is more valuable?
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