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.444 Marlin or 45-70?
Posted on 12/14/11 at 6:30 pm
Posted on 12/14/11 at 6:30 pm
On my way home from hunting today, i decided it's time to get a new rifle. looking to go primative weapon i can use and retire my old cva muzzle loader.
leaning toward the .444. ya'll experts give me some pro's, con's, and opinions.
also, in mississippi you can also use .35 whelen. not sure if you can in louisiana. dont feel like looking it up right now.
leaning toward the .444. ya'll experts give me some pro's, con's, and opinions.
also, in mississippi you can also use .35 whelen. not sure if you can in louisiana. dont feel like looking it up right now.
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Posted on 12/14/11 at 6:33 pm to MsandLa
Its a wash for whitetails in Mississippi except for ammo availability. .45-70 will be easier to find, and probably cheaper, and with more bullet weights, etc.
I don't know if Hornady is making LeverEvolution in .444, but you might want to look at it for .45-70.
I don't know if Hornady is making LeverEvolution in .444, but you might want to look at it for .45-70.
Posted on 12/14/11 at 6:36 pm to coloradoBengal
i have been looking at prices of ammo also. places i looked believe it or not, .444 was cheaper.
hornady makes leverevolution in .444. my buddy is big into Hornady ammo. He gave me another line they have but i forgot name of it.
hornady makes leverevolution in .444. my buddy is big into Hornady ammo. He gave me another line they have but i forgot name of it.
Posted on 12/14/11 at 6:39 pm to MsandLa
Inside of 200 yards, there is no noticeable difference. Past that, the .444 performs better.
Bullets are easier to find for the .45-70
Both will kick like hell
Both will kill the hell out of deer
Bullets are easier to find for the .45-70
Both will kick like hell
Both will kill the hell out of deer
Posted on 12/14/11 at 6:44 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Both will kick like hell
yeah, i have shot my buddies before. it kicks but not near as bad as the savage 7mag i have. i hate that gun.
Posted on 12/14/11 at 6:45 pm to MsandLa
Hornady came out with a 45-70 round that is something like a 225 grain bullet apposed to the 325 grain bullet. This should have a little less recoil and add some more distance capability. I haven't seen them in stores this year but should be coming out soon(they are on the Hornady website). The 45-70 will be awesome with less recoil and the smae bolistic capability.
Posted on 12/14/11 at 6:48 pm to MsandLa
The .444 is one of those calibers that I don't understand where it came from. It seems you could load a .45-70 up or down to equal or surpass anything a .444 would do.
In any event... either one will work fine for what it appears you are going to use it for, and the differences are negligible for that purpose.
In any event... either one will work fine for what it appears you are going to use it for, and the differences are negligible for that purpose.
Posted on 12/14/11 at 6:49 pm to NorthLABoy
thats interesting.
i figure i pay $269 for gun and $149 for nikon scope, i cant go wrong either way.
just wavering back and forth between calibers.
i figure i pay $269 for gun and $149 for nikon scope, i cant go wrong either way.
just wavering back and forth between calibers.
Posted on 12/14/11 at 6:52 pm to coloradoBengal
You can load the .45-70 into an absolute monster. That's where the .450 marlin came from. I've always thought of the .444 as a gimmick caliber.
Posted on 12/14/11 at 6:54 pm to coloradoBengal
Posted on 12/14/11 at 6:58 pm to MsandLa
quote:
leaning toward the .444.
Why are you leaning that way? I am not an expert to be sure, and I've seen guys hunt with both.
Posted on 12/14/11 at 7:00 pm to coloradoBengal
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Why are you leaning that way?
honestly, it's a little different from what buddies use. no other reason but to be different.
my friends shoot matthews and i shoot bowtech.
Posted on 12/14/11 at 7:02 pm to MsandLa
quote:Been there. Done that.
no other reason but to be different.
What kind of gun are you going to get?
Posted on 12/14/11 at 7:02 pm to MsandLa
quote:
it's a little different from what buddies use
Understandable.
Get a .38-55 winchester. I want one soooo bad.
Posted on 12/14/11 at 7:06 pm to coloradoBengal
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What kind of gun are you going to get?
just that single shot handi-rifle by H&R. use it instead of muzzle loader. nothing fancy at all. i dont buy expensive guns to hunt with.
Posted on 12/14/11 at 7:07 pm to MsandLa
I love my 45-70. I don't know much about the .444. U are right u can get a handi-rifle for about 269 and I got a Nikon Prostaff for 99 bucks last Christmas. When I got mine I used it for 2 straight years befor I picked up another rifle.
Posted on 12/14/11 at 7:08 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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.38-55 winchester
i dont even know what the hell that is.
is it considered a primative weapon round?
Posted on 12/14/11 at 7:09 pm to NorthLABoy
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I got a Nikon Prostaff for 99 bucks
thats a damn good price.
Posted on 12/14/11 at 7:10 pm to MsandLa
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is it considered a primative weapon round?
It's .38 caliber or larger, so yes.
It's an old black powder cartridge. 38 caliber with 55 grains of black powder. Pretty badass deer round from what I hear.
Or you can get a .500 S&W if you don't mind paying for the bullets.
Posted on 12/14/11 at 7:14 pm to MsandLa
Yes it is. Shop around good before you buy one. I have the handi-rifle and love it. The single shot is very accurate too(zero moving parts). I put 3 shots in a 2 inch group at 100 yards a couple weeks ago. That's not bad for a big round like that.
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