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re: If the Packers go 19-0 this year
Posted on 12/8/11 at 10:41 am to H-Town Tiger
Posted on 12/8/11 at 10:41 am to H-Town Tiger
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In other words, a great defense or a great offense
I mean only 3 of the last 11 won it with a soft D. The other winners that had a great offense also had good to great defense. So, to the OP's point:
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Does this put us a few steps past the "Defense wins championships" with today's game and rules? Can we now say Quarterbacks and Offenses wins Championships?
No, more often than not, defense still wins championships. Yea, if you have a top offense it is possible to win with a below average defense, but it doesn't happen as often as the other way around (great D with an average O). The only shining example of O winning it, is the 2006 Indianapolis Mannings.
wow the 03 Pats belong on the D wins championships side....
This post was edited on 12/8/11 at 10:43 am
Posted on 12/8/11 at 10:43 am to Archie Bengal Bunker
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The only shining example of O winning it, is the 2006 Indianapolis Mannings.
That is the worst example ever. Did you not watch that post season and super bowl?
Posted on 12/8/11 at 10:49 am to Archie Bengal Bunker
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No, more often than not, defense still wins championships. Yea, if you have a top offense it is possible to win with a below average defense, but it doesn't happen as often as the other way around (great D with an average O).
Aside from the 2000 Ravens, how many teams had a really bad offense?
I read somewhere since 1970 something 34 of the SB winners were in the top 10 in D and 29 were in the top 10 in O. Not too surprising to find good teams are good on both sides of the ball.
ETA: Check out a bood called Scorecasting, it kinda like Freakonomics but about sports. Anyway it talks about this for all sports, not just FB.
I do agree with whoever said its easier to build a good D, than to get an elite QB. Just look at the Texans this year, from worst D in the league to one of the best.
This post was edited on 12/8/11 at 10:51 am
Posted on 12/8/11 at 10:50 am to Archie Bengal Bunker
Defense wins championships:
(total offense)/(total defense)
Great D:
_(9) / (5) 2010 Green Bay
(22) / (1) 2008 Steelers
(16) / (7) 2007 Giants
(15) / (4) 2005 Steelers
(17) / (7) 2003 Patriots
(24) / (1) 2002 Buccaneers
(16) / (2) 2000 Ravens
More O than D:
_(1) / (25) 2009 Saints
_(3) / (21) 2006 Colts
_(7) / _(9) 2004 Patriots <- just a great team on both sides of the ball
Anomaly:
(19) / (24) 2001 Patriots <- this must be OBUdan's team; how did they win it all?
(total offense)/(total defense)
Great D:
_(9) / (5) 2010 Green Bay
(22) / (1) 2008 Steelers
(16) / (7) 2007 Giants
(15) / (4) 2005 Steelers
(17) / (7) 2003 Patriots
(24) / (1) 2002 Buccaneers
(16) / (2) 2000 Ravens
More O than D:
_(1) / (25) 2009 Saints
_(3) / (21) 2006 Colts
_(7) / _(9) 2004 Patriots <- just a great team on both sides of the ball
Anomaly:
(19) / (24) 2001 Patriots <- this must be OBUdan's team; how did they win it all?
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