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Alabama’s 13 National Championships Debunked
Posted on 11/30/11 at 12:24 pm
Posted on 11/30/11 at 12:24 pm
I did a search and didn't see this article here....so sorry if Germans. Since the original article that is linked below was written in 2008, it didn't cover the 13th Claimed Championship. I edited the original article to include Alabama's Championship from 2009.
LINK
13 National Championships? … The Real Story
I just wanted to clear up a few misconceptions about Alabama’s claim to 13 national championships based on fact rather than bias. Credit is given where credit is due.
To clear up confusion, the word retroactive means they went back in time to award the championship.
‘THIRTEEN’ national championships is fraudulent, nothing but pure bunk ginned up by the SID Department. Here’s a rundown:
1925 National Championship- Alabama claims they share this one with Dartmouth. Who awarded the NC? Houlgate and Helms. Houlgate started his system in 1927. So Bama won their 1925 NC using a formula that didn’t exist until 1927? Helms Athletic Foundation started in 1941. Another incredible retroactive NC.
The Associated Press Poll has been active since 1936. The AP took their final poll prior to bowl games from 1936 – 1964 and in 1966 and 1967. They took their final poll after the bowl games in 1965 and from 1968 – Current.
1926 National Championship- Alabama claims they share this one with 3 other teams with equal or better records! Once again it is the Helms Athletic Foundation in 1941 that awards it!
1930 National Championship- The Davis poll says that Bama tied Notre Dame for NC this year. This was the only one to award it to Bama. Notre Dame was named NC in 6 polls! Parke Davis is another retroactive system! He (an individual, not an organization) did his in 1933!
1934 National Championship- Alabama says they share this with two other teams. The awarders are Dunkel, Williamson, and Football Thesaurus. Dunkel was an individual who came up with his own system. Williamson was a geologist who came up with his own system. Football Thesaurus first appeared in 1946!
1941 National Championship- This is a complete joke. The AP ranked Alabama 20th in the nation with 14 teams with better records in the top 20. Once again it is the Football Thesaurus that retroactively awards it. Alabama finished 3rd in the SEC that year. Mississippi State won the SEC title..yet Bama claims a National title!
1961 National Championship- Finally a legitimate NC. .
1964 National Championship- While the AP did award the NC to Bama (10-1-0), Arkansas had the better record, 11-0. Alabama played Texas in their bowl and LOST. The AP final poll was before the bowl.
1965 National Championship- The AP gave this to Bama. That year there were three teams with better records than Bama. Bama 9-1-1, Michigan St 10-1-0, Arkansas 10-1-0, Nebraska 10-1-0.
1973 National Championship- AP puts Bama 4th after their bowl game loss. Bama claims a NC from the UPI poll that was taken before they met Notre Dame in the bowl game and lost. There were 3 teams with better records than Bama that year. The embarrassment of naming Alabama number one caused the UPI to name champions after bowl games. Yet Bammer has no shame in claiming it of course.
1978 National Championship- AP gives this to Alabama(11-1-0) even though USC (12-1-0) had the better record Guess who Alabama lost to that year? USC!!!!!!!!!. UPI gave the NC to USC.
1979 National Championship- Their second legitimate NC. Their first Unanimous NC.
1992 National Championship- Their third legitimate NC. Their second Unanimous NC.
2009 National Championship- Their fourth legitimate NC. Their third Unanimous NC.
You can see why people ridicule Bama fans when they talk about 13 NCs. The early ones were awarded by individuals years after the games were played. These weren’t consensus polls but NCs awarded by people that had their own formula for determining champions. Some NCs were given before bowl games that Bama lost. Using Alabama logic, Auburn could claim four national championships. But when Bammers brag they like to say they have thirteen and Auburn has one. How silly. The NCAA recognizes 6 NCs for Bama and there are only two NCs that Bama has unanimously. You can’t find an Auburn site claiming four national championships but there are plenty Bama sites claiming thirteen.
Debunking the Alabama National Championship myths.
Bama…legends in their own minds!
References:
NCAA
Wikipedia
ESPN
LINK
13 National Championships? … The Real Story
I just wanted to clear up a few misconceptions about Alabama’s claim to 13 national championships based on fact rather than bias. Credit is given where credit is due.
To clear up confusion, the word retroactive means they went back in time to award the championship.
‘THIRTEEN’ national championships is fraudulent, nothing but pure bunk ginned up by the SID Department. Here’s a rundown:
1925 National Championship- Alabama claims they share this one with Dartmouth. Who awarded the NC? Houlgate and Helms. Houlgate started his system in 1927. So Bama won their 1925 NC using a formula that didn’t exist until 1927? Helms Athletic Foundation started in 1941. Another incredible retroactive NC.
The Associated Press Poll has been active since 1936. The AP took their final poll prior to bowl games from 1936 – 1964 and in 1966 and 1967. They took their final poll after the bowl games in 1965 and from 1968 – Current.
1926 National Championship- Alabama claims they share this one with 3 other teams with equal or better records! Once again it is the Helms Athletic Foundation in 1941 that awards it!
1930 National Championship- The Davis poll says that Bama tied Notre Dame for NC this year. This was the only one to award it to Bama. Notre Dame was named NC in 6 polls! Parke Davis is another retroactive system! He (an individual, not an organization) did his in 1933!
1934 National Championship- Alabama says they share this with two other teams. The awarders are Dunkel, Williamson, and Football Thesaurus. Dunkel was an individual who came up with his own system. Williamson was a geologist who came up with his own system. Football Thesaurus first appeared in 1946!
1941 National Championship- This is a complete joke. The AP ranked Alabama 20th in the nation with 14 teams with better records in the top 20. Once again it is the Football Thesaurus that retroactively awards it. Alabama finished 3rd in the SEC that year. Mississippi State won the SEC title..yet Bama claims a National title!
1961 National Championship- Finally a legitimate NC. .
1964 National Championship- While the AP did award the NC to Bama (10-1-0), Arkansas had the better record, 11-0. Alabama played Texas in their bowl and LOST. The AP final poll was before the bowl.
1965 National Championship- The AP gave this to Bama. That year there were three teams with better records than Bama. Bama 9-1-1, Michigan St 10-1-0, Arkansas 10-1-0, Nebraska 10-1-0.
1973 National Championship- AP puts Bama 4th after their bowl game loss. Bama claims a NC from the UPI poll that was taken before they met Notre Dame in the bowl game and lost. There were 3 teams with better records than Bama that year. The embarrassment of naming Alabama number one caused the UPI to name champions after bowl games. Yet Bammer has no shame in claiming it of course.
1978 National Championship- AP gives this to Alabama(11-1-0) even though USC (12-1-0) had the better record Guess who Alabama lost to that year? USC!!!!!!!!!. UPI gave the NC to USC.
1979 National Championship- Their second legitimate NC. Their first Unanimous NC.
1992 National Championship- Their third legitimate NC. Their second Unanimous NC.
2009 National Championship- Their fourth legitimate NC. Their third Unanimous NC.
You can see why people ridicule Bama fans when they talk about 13 NCs. The early ones were awarded by individuals years after the games were played. These weren’t consensus polls but NCs awarded by people that had their own formula for determining champions. Some NCs were given before bowl games that Bama lost. Using Alabama logic, Auburn could claim four national championships. But when Bammers brag they like to say they have thirteen and Auburn has one. How silly. The NCAA recognizes 6 NCs for Bama and there are only two NCs that Bama has unanimously. You can’t find an Auburn site claiming four national championships but there are plenty Bama sites claiming thirteen.
Debunking the Alabama National Championship myths.
Bama…legends in their own minds!
References:
NCAA
Wikipedia
ESPN
Posted on 11/30/11 at 12:26 pm to timmeister
Germans. Look down, first page.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 12:26 pm to timmeister
you search for previous threads like my wife searches for her car keys.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 12:28 pm to clamdip
I was editing the article to include 2009 between phone calls and didn't realize it had been posted this morning. Oh Well.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 12:28 pm to timmeister
It might be Germans, but it is still funny to read. Where are all the Bama lurkers?
Posted on 11/30/11 at 12:32 pm to timmeister
Now we know why all the questions!!!
Thanks, I never doubted they had 13, now I know they have four.

Thanks, I never doubted they had 13, now I know they have four.

Posted on 11/30/11 at 12:41 pm to timmeister
NCAA credits us with 11. Most real UA fans discount 1941. It is a joke that we claim it. To the retards talking shite about winning the title and losing the bowl game, that is how it was done at that time. The national champ was chosen before the bowl games.
LINK
We're going to make it 12 on January 9th
LINK
We're going to make it 12 on January 9th

Posted on 11/30/11 at 12:45 pm to Sofa King Crimson
Lol he's gonna claim 12 when they win the sugar bowl!
Posted on 11/30/11 at 12:47 pm to sgallo3
keep runnin' scurred, playa. We're gonna work y'all.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 12:56 pm to Sofa King Crimson
Like you did earlier this year right?
Posted on 11/30/11 at 1:01 pm to LordSnow
Gumps sound like a bunch of dumbasses whenever someone uses logic in an argument and the first thing they respond with y'all are scared.
Honestly do you think the LSU team is scared of any team?

Posted on 11/30/11 at 1:05 pm to timmeister
This is Fantastic!!
THANK YOU!!!
THANK YOU!!!
Posted on 11/30/11 at 1:05 pm to Sofa King Crimson
If the media has their way ,yes you will be unfortunate enough to get to play LSU again. If for one moment you think LSU will take it easy on you undeserving shites,you're mistaken.LSU will be 14-0 BCS,AP,Coach's,Harris poll and whatever National Champs. Alabama will be National Chumps. Beaten twice by LSU. Saban will hide in shame. Book it ! 

Posted on 11/30/11 at 1:09 pm to timmeister
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Alabama’s 13 National Championships Debunked
Posted on 11/30/11 at 1:10 pm to Sofa King Crimson
quote:
We're going to make it 12 on January 9th
Well, if you do it will be bogus like the others. You've already been beaten at home by the team you 'hope' you get a chance to play...
But, Babalama Boy, since all you people like to cry 'fair, fair, fair'. How bout the best two out of three SHOULD you win, which I doubt. That is the ONLY FAIR WAY to settle this little debate...
Moot point, of course, we could play you 20 times, win 19 and when you won the last one all we'd hear is "WE WON, WE WON, WE WON!" As you walked away....
Posted on 11/30/11 at 1:12 pm to Sofa King Crimson
quote:
keep runnin' scurred, playa. We're gonna work y'all.
You have to admit, at least Bama's logic, or should I say imagination is consistent.
If they can claim they really "WON" a game in which they scored fewer points than the other team (9-6)...Why not continue to stretch their version of reality and claim a long list of National Championships!

Wow! That Tide is impressive!


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