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So You Don't Know Why Miles Might Want to Start Jefferson?

Posted on 11/17/11 at 9:29 am
Posted by just me
Front of the Class: Schooling You
Member since Mar 2006
34489 posts
Posted on 11/17/11 at 9:29 am
Jefferson Is A Damn Good Rusher

Some posters complain that every time Jordan Jefferson runs, he takes a carry away from a more effective runner.

Some posters complain that Jordan Jefferson should not carry the ball because we have RBs who can carry the ball.

There are only two RBs on the team who have more yards per carry that Jefferson: Ford and Blue.



What makes the statistic more remarkable is that Jefferson's 4.1 ypc includes sacks.

Jefferson is more effective rushing than Ware, Hilliard, Magee, and Gore.

Moreover, LSU runs the ball better when Jefferson is on the field. Not just because he is an effective runner at 4.1 ypc, but also because he is an effective threat to run at the snap even if someone else ends up carrying the ball.


Jefferson Is A Damn Good Passer Too



Jefferson's Passing Efficiency has been hugely impressive starting with the Alabama game in 2010. Slice it anyway you want. Use Jefferson's 2011's stats (QB Rating of 176.4; #5 ranking). Use Jefferson's last 8 SEC games (QB Rating of 164.7; #7 ranking). Use all of Jefferson's games starting with Bama in 2010 (QB Rating of 159.7; #11 ranking). (Rankings were interpolated using NCAA stats.)

Similarly, the Yds/Attempt, TD%, and Int% statistics and rankings are all damn good.

The Completion Percentage might not be great; however, considering the competition and the yards per attempt, it's still pretty damn good.


LSU's QBs have some bad history. LSU's QBs had some bad stats in 2008 through 2010. Crowton is gone.

Look at the difference in both Lee and Jefferson from 2010 and 2011.

Lee went from 119.9 (bad) to 151.5 (damn good).
Jefferson went from 114.7 (bad) to 176.4 (damn good).

Look at Danny O'Brien too. Where are all of the posters who predicted that the Terps would take off with Crowton? Where are the posters who said that Jefferson and Lee were holding Crowton back?

QB Ratings 2010
Jarrett Lee: 119.9
Jordan Jefferson: 114.7
Danny O'Brien: 134.5


QB Ratings 2011
Jarrett Lee: 151.5
Jordan Jefferson: 176.4
Danny O'Brien: 109.6


I'm not saying that Miles should start Jefferson.

However, if Miles does start Jefferson or give him significant playing time, now you know why.

Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
Top secret lab
Member since Feb 2004
52841 posts
Posted on 11/17/11 at 9:31 am to
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 11/17/11 at 9:34 am to
quote:

Jefferson is more effective rushing than Ware, Hilliard


Do you honestly believe this?

What about Michael ford?

quote:

Jefferson Is A Damn Good Passer Too



What in the.. I don't even...

Posted by mylsuhat
Mandeville, LA
Member since Mar 2008
49817 posts
Posted on 11/17/11 at 9:34 am to
Congrats! JJ wins the fantasy football matchup


We score more when JL is starting and JJ comes in situationally. It's a fact
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 11/17/11 at 9:36 am to
quote:

Jefferson went from 114.7 (bad) to 176.4 (damn good).


That is a ridiculously slanted stat based on a small sample of throws would you say?

He went 8-14 1 TD against a shitty team.
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 11/17/11 at 9:36 am to
quote:

just me


Please answer the following questions.

Prior to the alabama game, what about LSU's offense dont you like and why would you want to change?

TIA.
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 11/17/11 at 9:37 am to
quote:


We score more when JL is starting and JJ comes in situationally. It's a fact


This
Posted by rbdallas
Dallas, TX
Member since Nov 2007
10344 posts
Posted on 11/17/11 at 9:37 am to
quote:

Congrats! JJ wins the fantasy football matchup We score more when JL is starting and JJ comes in situationally. It's a fact


+1

but the JJ crew will continue to use stats to justify the A -- Kissing.

Frankly, it is wake up time..
we have 2 QBs, the senior season is almost over, they will both be gone.... we use them both.
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
42142 posts
Posted on 11/17/11 at 9:39 am to
quote:

but the JJ crew will continue to use stats to justify the A -- Kissing.



Chalk another one up to the ranter column
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
109427 posts
Posted on 11/17/11 at 9:40 am to
People who are firmly entrenched in the "camp" of one quarterback or the other, and never tire of letting you in on that fact: The most played out thing on this site EVER.

Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
69416 posts
Posted on 11/17/11 at 9:41 am to
quote:

We score more when JL is starting and JJ comes in situationally. It's a fact


JJ started once and we scored 42 pts. Isn't that above our season average? Your statement is not a FACT.
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 11/17/11 at 9:43 am to
quote:

JJ started once and we scored 42 pts. Isn't that above our season average?


n of 1 is worthless.
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
42142 posts
Posted on 11/17/11 at 9:43 am to
quote:

JJ started once and we scored 42 pts. Isn't that above our season average? Your statement is not a FACT.



This.

Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
36290 posts
Posted on 11/17/11 at 9:43 am to
quote:

That is a ridiculously slanted stat based on a small sample of throws would you say?

He went 8-14 1 TD against a shitty team.



I agree the one game is a small sample size but the post bama 2010 game he has a 159 qb rating over a large sample size. JJ has gotten much better throwing the ball and something clicked starting in the second quarter of that game. Do I think we should continue to start Lee? Yes. Should we let Jefferson throw it more when hes in? IMO yes.
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 11/17/11 at 9:44 am to
quote:

JJ started once and we scored 42 pts. Isn't that above our season average? Your statement is not a FACT.





This.


Im gonna state the obvious...can we at least take into account who we played?

and will you and topwater please answer my quesiotn above since the op wont.
Id like a logical reply.

Thanks.
This post was edited on 11/17/11 at 9:45 am
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 11/17/11 at 9:44 am to
quote:

People who are firmly entrenched in the "camp" of one quarterback or the other, and never tire of letting you in on that fact: The most played out thing on this site EVER.



I really don't see this post as that, merely pointing out that there is absolutely no reason to pretend that the insertion of Jefferson into the lineup means instant doom and the likely collapse of Tiger Stadium as it's portrayed by some.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
109427 posts
Posted on 11/17/11 at 9:46 am to
quote:

I really don't see this post as that,


Riiiiight
Posted by johnnydrama
Possibly Trashy
Member since Feb 2010
9121 posts
Posted on 11/17/11 at 9:46 am to
quote:

Jefferson Is A Damn Good Passer Too

Da frick?
In the 'bama game, if the pass to Shepard is on the money, it's a touchdown.

In the WKU game, on one drive,
if the pass is accurate to Clement, it's a touchdown,
if the pass is accurate to Beckham, it's a touchdown,
finally, he throws an accurate two-yard pass for the score.

Maybe he was just trying to give the defense a rest.
Posted by bwallcubfan
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2007
38774 posts
Posted on 11/17/11 at 9:47 am to
Gore has 8 carries? Where have I been?
Posted by tigerchamps85
lake charles
Member since Jul 2010
16 posts
Posted on 11/17/11 at 9:48 am to
Our O preforms much better when Lee is on the feild. You can play with stats all you want but our O is much better when JJ comes off the bench and RUNS the ball. Lee should be the go to guy. He has performed great all year long and is the main reason we are 10-0.
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