Why Mizzou?

USF doesn't have enough national interest to overcome the fact that it's in Florida

which is why FSU is a potential exception to the "not expanding to current SEC states" idea

As to why Mizzou, the reason is expanding the geographic footprint and adding new television markets. Louisville adds no new market, West Virginia has no major markets, and Tampa is notorious for being fickle sports fans. USF doesn't even have its own stadium, Florida already controls more of the Tampa market than USF, they aren't competitive in any major sports, and are a directional school. They add no money, no quality athletics, no tradition, no academic prestige, and no solid fanbase. They literally have nothing to offer, regardless of how a move to the SEC would obviously help them.

Expansion is all about money. Mizzou brings the most money to the sec because of the tv markets.

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West Virginia has no major markets

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West Virginia is one of about 5 teams that are considered local here in DC. Their games are always televised here on one of the local affiliates (if they're not on one of the major networks), and they get local media attention here. DC is more of a pro sports town, but West Virginia would definitely increase the SEC's exposure here.

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WVU- Again, BE es adios (go ahead and correct me if I'm wrong). Okay fit geographically (really depends who you ask)..... And, although I've never been there, Morgantown just
seems like a good college football town.

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I personally have no problem with WVU. To me if VaTech fits geographically WVU should also. They have a decent football program too. As for other sports, football drives the bus in the SEC anything else is lagniappe. Personally, I don't think Beamer would let them move to the SEC, He doesn't want the competition.

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Geographically, we here in the Tampa Bay area are in the SE, but sometimes people dispute that we "actually fit in with the SE, on a cultural level"

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I have lived in the Tampa Bay/Clearwater area growing up and I would think of it as Gainsville light. The cultural differences come into play more in the Miami/Ft Lauderdale area IMO. Realistically if the SEC wants to put another Florida school in the conference it has to go with FSU first based on success and national appeal. It's all about TV viewership.

1. St. Louis and KC TV markets.
2. Good football and basketball programs.
3. Good geographic fit.
4. Adds a 4th AAU school to SEC.
5. Should have a natural rivalry with Arkansas.
6. Only other schools with as much to add are VT and UNC, and both are not options at the moment.

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1. St Louis tv market 2. Kansas City tv market

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Wow. That's just extremely underwhelming.

Let me ask you, which game would get more eyeballs, Alabama @ Mizzou or Alabama @ FSU?

This whole media markets thing is talked about an awful lot, but it seems like someone isn't really doing their homework.

The SEC needs to land FSU.

1. It always amazes me why people don't seem to understand this. Conference expansion revolves around renegotiating TV contracts. The networks have told conferences that it is more profitable to expand into NEW markets. Mizzou brings two large markets in St. Louis and KC. Florida St brings NOTHING FLORIDA DOESN'T ALREADY BRING. VT would be better here, but that isn't happening for now.

2. Mizzou over the past 5 years has been better at both football and basketball than FSU. VT would be better from a football standpoint.

3. Mizzou borders 3 current SEC states, so yes, very good geographic fit that expands footprint, as would VT and UNC. FSU is irrelevant since they don't expand the SEC footprint.

4. Academics are far from the deciding factor, but they are considered. Georgia and Alabama both want in the AAU, and adding another existing AAU school along with A&M helps that process considerably. Why do you think no one wants anything to do with Ok St?

5. The two schools proximity should create a rivalry, much more so than A&M-USCe, for instance. It's a minor point, but yes, FSU would have the Florida game to hype up.

6. FSU doesn't expand the TV footprint, so brings little value to renegotiations in comparison with Mizzou. They also aren't AAU, and are hardly playing football and basketball up to "SEC standards." Both VT and UNC are MUCH, better options than FSU, and so is Mizzou.

Now, after expanding the footprint with teams #13 and #14, FSU MIGHT be an option as #15 or #16, but Florida won't allow it and USCe, Georgia, and A&M will stand with them on it.

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Now, after expanding the footprint with teams #13 and #14, FSU MIGHT be an option as #15 or #16, but Florida won't allow it and USCe, Georgia, and A&M will stand with them on it.

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Oh please! Now you're telling us how to run our conference. As expected. I love the 'stand with them' BS from aggy.

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1. It always amazes me why people don't seem to understand this. Conference expansion revolves around renegotiating TV contracts. The networks have told conferences that it is more profitable to expand into NEW markets. Mizzou brings two large markets in St. Louis and KC. Florida St brings NOTHING FLORIDA DOESN'T ALREADY BRING. VT would be better here, but that isn't happening for now.

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Just because I disagree with it doesn't mean I don't understand it.

I don't care what the networks tell anybody, they lie. I don't care what you say, I don't think that KC and St Louis are large college football markets. You're just parroting what you've heard about FSU/Florida. It simply isn't true.

A Bama @ FSU game would draw eyeballs from all over the COUNTRY, not just Florida or Kansas City/St. Louis. UF does NOT control the entire state of Florida. Florida is a LARGE state, we can get more money out of it.

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2. Mizzou over the past 5 years has been better at both football and basketball than FSU. VT would be better from a football standpoint.

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It doesn't matter, people all across the country still want to watch FSU, people in Missouri don't even want to watch Mizzou.

FSU is simply a better PRODUCT than Mizzou, WVU or VT. If you can't see that, you don't follow much college football.

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3. Mizzou borders 3 current SEC states, so yes, very good geographic fit that expands footprint, as would VT and UNC. FSU is irrelevant since they don't expand the SEC footprint.

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Whatever, it still will have the farthest travel than any other SEC team. And all this talk about "footprint" by the FANS. WTF do the fans care about 'footprints'? We just want to watch good football games, and that is what Mizzou does NOT bring. I swear sometimes it seems like the fans actually think that by expanding footprints and media markets and cable subscriptions THEY are going to be the ones realizing increased profits.

NEWSFLASH SEC FANS: You personally will not be making any more money off of conference expansion. You will only be receiving a watered down product. thx, mgt.

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4. Academics are far from the deciding factor, but they are considered. Georgia and Alabama both want in the AAU, and adding another existing AAU school along with A&M helps that process considerably. Why do you think no one wants anything to do with Ok St?

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Look, I'm all FOR improving academics at ALL universities, I just don't think it's that big of a deal for an athletic conference. If Mizzou is so great in terms of TV, Athletics and academics, why has the B1G consistantly turned them down? Apparently they're not that great after all.

3 words: Thomas Boone Pickens.

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5. The two schools proximity should create a rivalry, much more so than A&M-USCe, for instance.

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Contrived.

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It's a minor point, but yes, FSU would have the Florida game to hype up.

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And UGA, and Auburn, and Tennessee and Alabama and LSU and... These matchups ALL look good for national TV programming.

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6. FSU doesn't expand the TV footprint, so brings little value to renegotiations in comparison with Mizzou. They also aren't AAU, and are hardly playing football and basketball up to "SEC standards." Both VT and UNC are MUCH, better options than FSU, and so is Mizzou.

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Why is it just the SEC that has to be restricted by TV footprints? You think the B1G won't take Notre Dame because they already have the Indiana market covered? Is not the Big 12 inviting TCU into the conference? You think UT doesn't already have the entire Texas market wrapped up?

No, VT and UNC do not bring more to the table than FSU. UNC + Duke might bring more than say FSU + VT, but I really don't care about basketball, so IMO, I would rather see FSU than UNC.

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Now, after expanding the footprint with teams #13 and #14, FSU MIGHT be an option as #15 or #16, but Florida won't allow it and USCe, Georgia, and A&M will stand with them on it.

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Jesus aggy, know your place. You haven't been here long enough to post monographs. You must link your sources for your statements. Or at least qualify them as your opinions. You have no clue as to where A&M stands on the subject much less UGA, UF or USC.

The best option for expansion at this point from the fans' perspective is FSU.