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So if Auburn moves to the East...

Posted on 9/20/11 at 1:28 pm
Posted by BayouBengals03
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Posted on 9/20/11 at 1:28 pm
If Auburn moved East, their permanent rival would have to be Alabama, which would end the yearly rivalry between Tennessee and Alabama. Georgia and Tennessee would have to be paired with A&M and Missouri to create two new permanent rivalries.

I think all of this shuffling would piss a lot of people off.

Seems like this could lead to the possible end of permanent rivalries in the SEC. But then again, there is no way Alabama and Auburn won't play every year. So maybe this will only make the case for permanent rivalries stronger? Thoughts?
This post was edited on 9/20/11 at 1:29 pm
Posted by PuntBamaPunt
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Posted on 9/20/11 at 1:29 pm to
Perm. rivalries are over.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 9/20/11 at 1:30 pm to
I just want to play ULMonroe every year.
Posted by jcole4lsu
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Posted on 9/20/11 at 1:31 pm to
perm rivalries are done. if AU moves to the east they will make an exception for that game.
Posted by BayouBengals03
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Posted on 9/20/11 at 1:38 pm to
quote:

perm rivalries are done. if AU moves to the east they will make an exception for that game.

I don't see how that would work. If their schedule has an exception in it every year, it would seem like that would make all of the other schedules have an exception in them too.

I don't think permanent rivalries are over. I think we're headed towards a 9-game conference schedule. I think schools like Alabama, Auburn, and Tennessee would care more about keeping their big rivalries in place than having one more away game than home game every other year.
Posted by JPLSU1981
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Posted on 9/20/11 at 1:39 pm to
Permanent cross-division games are going nowhere, despite the fact that LSU and Florida are adamently opposed to them. No one else in the league has a problem with it.

not much will change....8 or maybe up to 9 conference games, 3 cross division games (1 of which is permanent)

the biggest change will be annual Tenn-Bama game being done.


(although, again, I believe this can all be avoided by merely sticking Mizzou in the East....pair A&M with Mizzou and be done with it all)
This post was edited on 9/20/11 at 1:43 pm
Posted by jcole4lsu
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Posted on 9/20/11 at 1:42 pm to
quote:

Permanent cross-division games are going nowhere

except Martin said they are here
Posted by BayouBengals03
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Posted on 9/20/11 at 1:44 pm to
quote:

Permanent cross-division games are going nowhere, despite the fact that LSU and Florida are adamently opposed to them. No one else in the league has a problem with it.


I agree.
quote:

not much will change....8 or maybe up to 9 conference games, 3 cross division games (1 of which is permanent)

I think it'll have to go to 9. Either permanent rivalries will end, or they'll go to a 9-game schedule. I don't see how one or the other doesn't happen.
quote:

the biggest change will be annual Tenn-Bama game being done.

Yep. Will be interesting to see who their new rival is from the West. Assuming LSU-Florida, Auburn-Alabama, Ole Miss-Vandy, State-Kentucky, and Arkansas-USC all stay in place, that would mean Georgia and Tennessee would have to be paired with Missouri and A&M for their permanent rivalry game.

Personally, I'd like to see Tennessee/Missouri and Georgia/A&M.
Posted by BayouBengals03
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Posted on 9/20/11 at 1:46 pm to
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except Martin said they are here

They can't have an exception for Alabama and Auburn to play every year without fricking up everyone else's schedule rotation in the process.

Either all permanent cross-division rivalries will end (including Alabama/Auburn), or they will stay in place.

Since Bama and AU isn't ending, I'd say they're going to stay in place with a 9-game conference schedule being implemented.
Posted by JPLSU1981
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Posted on 9/20/11 at 1:49 pm to
Well, based on Martin's comments, then that means either 1 of 2 things:


1. Missouri is being stuck in the East and no other team shifts(as opposed to Auburn shifting East) ... because if Auburn shifts, I guarantee you that permanent cross-division games will continue

OR

2. Martin doesn't know any more than the rest of us and is merely continuing to hammer the LSU drum opposed to permanent cross-division games.
This post was edited on 9/20/11 at 1:51 pm
Posted by GreyReb
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Posted on 9/20/11 at 1:52 pm to
They could go back to 2 perm rivalries.
Posted by BayouBengals03
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Posted on 9/20/11 at 1:53 pm to
quote:

2. Martin doesn't know any more than the rest of us and is merely continuing to hammer the LSU drum opposed to permanent cross-division games.

This is exactly what's happening most likely.
Posted by BayouBengals03
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Posted on 9/20/11 at 1:55 pm to
quote:

They could go back to 2 perm rivalries.

I don't think that's an option. With the addition of one team to each division, you could have LSU playing a team like South Carolina in Columbia only once every 10 years.
Posted by allin2010
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Posted on 9/20/11 at 1:56 pm to
Let me fix it for you...(Split up ALL states with two teams..)You would lose UT-Florida and UT-Vandy.

EAST:
UF (LSU)
Auburn (Alabama)
UGA (Tennessee)
USC (Arkie)
Ole Miss (Mississippi State)
UK (TAMU)
Vandy (Mizzou)

WEST
LSU (Florida)
UT (Georgia)
Bama (Auburn)
Arkie (USCe)
TAMU (UK)
Mizz(Vandy)
MSU (Ole Miss)
Posted by TigerHeel 99
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 9/20/11 at 2:00 pm to
I would change up the divisions with the goal of trying to split up the "Big 6" to create equitable divisions and trying to maintain historical rivalries as best as possible. I would not be concerned with geography.

This is what I come up with...

Div 1 Div 2

Bama <permanent opponent> Auburn
UT <> UGA
A&M <> Arkansas
LSU <> Florida
Ole Miss <> Miss St
Vandy <> Kentucky
South Carolina <> Missouri

So we lose UT-FLA and LSU-Aub, but both of those rivalries were really started when we did the original division split in 92.

We also lose UGA-SC and UK-UT.

We keep all the major ones though...
Posted by BayouBengals03
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Posted on 9/20/11 at 2:01 pm to
LSU/Ole Miss, Georgia/Florida, Ole Miss/Alabama...

Those are all huge rivalries.
This post was edited on 9/20/11 at 2:02 pm
Posted by JPLSU1981
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Posted on 9/20/11 at 2:05 pm to
I think some people are getting a little too creative.

In the end, the SEC will do what changes the status quo THE LEAST....Either plop Mizzou in the East or move Auburn East and the only affect is Bama-Tenn is gone.

At this moment, I think they put Mizzou in the East and pair them with the Aggies.
This post was edited on 9/20/11 at 2:07 pm
Posted by 19auburn49
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Posted on 9/20/11 at 2:07 pm to
If we take Missouri both Ala and Auburn end up in the East. Then UA's permanent rivalry will be LSU and Auburn's MSU
This post was edited on 9/20/11 at 2:10 pm
Posted by BayouBengals03
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Posted on 9/20/11 at 2:07 pm to
quote:

In the end, the SEC will do what changes the status quo THE LEAST....Either plop Mizzou in the East or move Auburn East and the only affect is Bama-Tenn is gone.

Yep. I think they put Missouri in the East. Most of the East teams are pretty far north in the first place. The only far trip would be to Gainesville.
This post was edited on 9/20/11 at 2:08 pm
Posted by BayouBengals03
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Posted on 9/20/11 at 2:07 pm to
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If we take Missouri both Ala and Auburn end up in the East.

No, only one of them.
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