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Notre Dame Should Go To The ACC

Posted on 9/19/11 at 8:43 pm
Posted by rocket31
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Posted on 9/19/11 at 8:43 pm
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most irish fans are hoping this is the move we make IF we are forced into a conference. joining the big ten regionalizes us which is far from appealing while the ACC still allows for a national brand and an expanded recruiting ground; population is booming in VA, NC, SC & FL. additionally, academics are solid.

big ten has $$$, but if the ACC gets the $$$ close to a push, the ACC will be a no-brainer for notre dame.
Posted by Monticello
Member since Jul 2010
16197 posts
Posted on 9/19/11 at 8:58 pm to
ND could keep the Michigan, USC, Mich St, and Purdue games if it goes to the Big Ten. If it goes ACC, it will likely have to choose between Michigan or USC and that be it for rivalry games.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41887 posts
Posted on 9/19/11 at 9:01 pm to
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it will likely have to choose between Michigan or USC and that be it for rivalry games.


true...

most want to play this schedule:
~MSU / Michigan (rotation)
~USC
~Navy
~BigEast/Mac/Etc. school
~8 game ACC schedule


This post was edited on 9/19/11 at 9:05 pm
Posted by Easy
Los Angeles
Member since Dec 2008
5687 posts
Posted on 9/19/11 at 9:43 pm to
I just looked at a few Irish forums and was very surprised to see how receptive your fans are to this. Dan Wetzel has a column endorsing it and I agree with his reasoning. The B1G is a conference in decline, both in football and in population. If ND moves to the ACC I think that PSU will as well. It's crazy, but not that crazy.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41887 posts
Posted on 9/20/11 at 7:27 am to
quote:

I just looked at a few Irish forums and was very surprised to see how receptive your fans are to this.


it was a hot discussion last week on the boards; some guys believe wetzel took his entire article from the points brought up by forum members.

most ND fans despise the idea of joining the B1G as well...

Posted by bayou2003
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Member since Oct 2003
17646 posts
Posted on 9/20/11 at 7:34 am to
quote:

most irish fans are hoping this is the move we make IF we are forced into a conference. joining the big ten regionalizes us which is far from appealing while the ACC still allows for a national brand and an expanded recruiting ground; population is booming in VA, NC, SC & FL. additionally, academics are solid.


Hell joining the BIG wouldn't stop people from loving Notre Dame or watching them. No matter what conference they join people will watch. Now the recruiting I doubt if going to the ACC would help with that. I don't see schools like Ohio State, Wisconsin, Penn State, etc having a problem recruiting while in the BIG.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41887 posts
Posted on 9/20/11 at 7:39 am to
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Ohio State, Wisconsin, Penn State, etc having a problem recruiting while in the BIG.



they also are large state schools and the majority of their players come from the home state; notre dame doesnt have that. our players come from across the country. joining the B1G regionalizes our football team to a dying midwest which is far from attractive.
This post was edited on 9/20/11 at 7:40 am
Posted by TriumphTiger
Alpharetta, GA
Member since Sep 2007
10440 posts
Posted on 9/20/11 at 7:55 am to
I always thought the B1G (new shorthand to me - what's that mean exactly?) was a natural fit for ND, but I have no tie to either. It's a complete outsider view.
Posted by TriumphTiger
Alpharetta, GA
Member since Sep 2007
10440 posts
Posted on 9/20/11 at 7:58 am to
quote:

joining the B1G regionalizes our football team to a dying midwest which is far from attractive.


Makes sense... but Nebraska and ND would help the regional thing. PSU, UM, and tOSU have national draw as well.
This post was edited on 9/20/11 at 8:00 am
Posted by Tigerntx
NOLA
Member since Jul 2011
1309 posts
Posted on 9/20/11 at 8:56 am to
This last round of realignment may be the last chance for NBC. Step up with your ND, add the Big12 (10-1) & the BigE remnants. Odds are that ND makes a move when their NBC TV contract expires. Last chance for NBC.
Posted by Bubba Hotep
Member since Nov 2003
9330 posts
Posted on 9/20/11 at 9:08 am to
I don't think this will be the last round of expansion.
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
26905 posts
Posted on 9/20/11 at 9:15 am to
quote:

ND could keep the Michigan, USC, Mich St, and Purdue games if it goes to the Big Ten. If it goes ACC, it will likely have to choose between Michigan or USC and that be it for rivalry games.
exactly. Notre Dame's schedule is filled with rivalry games that a full ACC schedule can not accommodate.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
60773 posts
Posted on 9/20/11 at 9:21 am to
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The B1G is a conference in decline,


Posted by Tigerntx
NOLA
Member since Jul 2011
1309 posts
Posted on 9/20/11 at 9:24 am to
Agree ND should consider the Big, but unfortunately, this is not about the fans, rivalries, or student athletes. It's about TV & the $$$$$.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41887 posts
Posted on 9/20/11 at 10:53 am to
quote:

I always thought the B1G (new shorthand to me - what's that mean exactly?)


Posted by TheFolker
Member since Aug 2011
5441 posts
Posted on 9/20/11 at 10:58 am to
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exactly. Notre Dame's schedule is filled with rivalry games that a full ACC schedule can not accommodate.


2 of their rivals, Boston College and Pitt are now in the ACC.
Posted by TriumphTiger
Alpharetta, GA
Member since Sep 2007
10440 posts
Posted on 9/20/11 at 10:58 am to
Ok - still makes no sense, but at least I understand where it came from.

quote:

Its contemporary collegiate lettering includes an embedded numeral "10" in the word "BIG," which allows fans to see "BIG" and "10" in a single word. Memorable and distinctive, the new logo evolved from the previous logo's use of negative space and is built on the conference's iconic name, without reference to the number of member institutions.


This is worse than Les-speak!

Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41887 posts
Posted on 9/20/11 at 10:58 am to
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Notre Dame's schedule is filled with rivalry games that a full ACC schedule can not accommodate


the only two rivalry games worth maintaining yearly are USC and Navy; the rest are expendable.

for example, recently notre dame and michigan have had frequent discussions about taking a break from the rivalry and both parties are satisfied with that decision.

with the big ten going to 9 conference game seasons inevitably matchups vs purdue and MSU will also die off or at least occur less often.
Posted by TriumphTiger
Alpharetta, GA
Member since Sep 2007
10440 posts
Posted on 9/20/11 at 10:59 am to
Just saw the 11 in the old logo and can only see "10" in the new one if I pretend a 'G' is a '0'. How about just getting a new name that actually makes sense when you don't have 10 teams any more?

This post was edited on 9/20/11 at 11:02 am
Posted by Shankopotomus
Social Distanced
Member since Feb 2009
21079 posts
Posted on 9/20/11 at 11:00 am to
Notre Dame better get their shite together and realize that this time if they don't grab a chair they will absolutely lose in this massive money grab game of musical chairs

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