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The Perfect Post-Expansion Playoff System (Detailed)

Posted on 9/19/11 at 3:12 am
Posted by Sev09
Nantucket
Member since Feb 2011
15798 posts
Posted on 9/19/11 at 3:12 am
It couldn't be 4 team playoff like most suggest(if the BCS went to a playoff system), because what of the lesser teams of the NCAA? I say the post season playoffs work like this:

ACC Champion*
-vs-
Highest rated non-AQ team^
-Played in the Orange Bowl

Big 16 Champion*
-vs-
2nd highest rated non-AQ team^
-Played in the Fiesta Bowl

Pac 16 Champion*
-vs-
Highest rated AQ team**
-Played in the Rose Bowl

SEC Champion*
-vs-
2nd Highest rated AQ team**
-Played in the Sugar Bowl

Both Semi Final games played in Cowboys Stadium

BCSNCG played in one of the BCS bowl stadiums.
The BCSNCG will not be played at a bowl where a finalist has previously played in the postseason. The National Championship Game should be held at the bowl site nearest both teams that neither team has played at in the first round.


*Superconference champion results from a post season championship game against the two best teams in the conference(regardless of division)

**AQ teams specifies a team from one of the four superconferences that were not winners of the conference championships. Basically the first and second runners up. Can be taken from any conference, but not both from the same conference. If the AQ team receiving the bid played in the SEC or PAC 16 championship game and lost, they will not be matched up with the same team again in the first round. For example: these can be switched so that the SEC champion plays the highest rated AQ team and the PAC 16 champion plays the second highest rated AQ team if it would be a rematch of the conference championship.

^Non-AQ teams are the highest and second highest rated FBS teams that do not belong to the four superconferences.


***NOTE: the AQ and non-AQ bids would be rotated every year. This is just what it would start as. For example: next year, ACC champion plays the 2nd highest rated AQ team, BIG 16 plays highest rated non-AQ team, and so on down the line...
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I know its a little daunting to read all these exceptions and rules, but I wanted to set up a realistic system with all the bases covered. Let me know what you think or give me suggestions if you have any!
This post was edited on 9/19/11 at 3:44 am
Posted by baytiger
Boston
Member since Dec 2007
46978 posts
Posted on 9/19/11 at 3:16 am to
the wild card seeds would have to rotate between all 4...

and a superconference championship might require a 4 team playoff in itself, so in essence you're creating an 18 team playoff with a double elimination for only two of the team

this would require the national champion to play 16 or 17 games
Posted by Sev09
Nantucket
Member since Feb 2011
15798 posts
Posted on 9/19/11 at 3:25 am to
quote:

the wild card seeds would have to rotate between all 4...

I agree that may need to happen.

quote:

and a superconference championship might require a 4 team playoff in itself, so in essence you're creating an 18 team playoff with a double elimination for only two of the team

I was thinking about this too. It's a valid argument, but I think that even with 4 divisions in each conference, the championship should be played against the two best teams in the conference, despite what division they're from.

If the regular season consists of 9 conference games (3 other teams in your division, and two teams from other 3 divisions) and 3 non-conference games to keep a 12 game schedule it would be:
12 games in reg. season
13 games after conference championship
14 games after first round of playoffs
15 games after semi finals
16th game is BCSNC

Yes, thats a tall order of any team, but it's definitely doable. I still think this is the best way to conduct a playoff system.

ETA: How does everything else look to you? Locations, exceptions, etc?
This post was edited on 9/19/11 at 3:30 am
Posted by StormTiger
Norwich, England (from Texas)
Member since Dec 2003
4922 posts
Posted on 9/19/11 at 6:08 am to
Id make it a 6 team...

4 superconference champs + 2 highest ranked teams from outside of those conferences.

number 1 and 2 ranked teams in the polls get a first round bye.

Week one
3vs6
4vs5

Week two
3vs6 winner vs 2
4vs5 winner vs 1

Then the title in week 3.
Posted by Sev09
Nantucket
Member since Feb 2011
15798 posts
Posted on 9/19/11 at 10:49 am to
I don't think that makes much sense though. It could work, I guess.
Posted by Harry Caray
Denial
Member since Aug 2009
20234 posts
Posted on 9/19/11 at 4:59 pm to
bumpity bump
Posted by PRK
Member since Sep 2009
9142 posts
Posted on 9/19/11 at 5:20 pm to
There is just too much damn money in the current bowl system for a playoff to occur in the near future. It simply isn't going to happen.


And I can't say I'm too disappointed about that. The BCS has been kind to LSU & the SEC (excluding the Barn in 04)
Posted by jcole4lsu
The Kwisatz Haderach
Member since Nov 2007
31827 posts
Posted on 9/19/11 at 5:22 pm to
quote:

There is just too much damn money in the current bowl system for a playoff to occur in the near future. It simply isn't going to happen.

ding. ding.

a 4 team playoff could be handled through the bowls, thats it.
Posted by Sev09
Nantucket
Member since Feb 2011
15798 posts
Posted on 9/20/11 at 1:23 am to
quote:

a 4 team playoff could be handled through the bowls, thats it.


Why only 4 teams? The eight team playoff model would satisfy the place of all bcs bowls. The money wouldn't go anywhere. I personally think there'd be more money involved because the teams are still in the running for a national title.
Posted by jturn17
Member since Jan 2011
4978 posts
Posted on 9/20/11 at 1:55 am to
Seems like there'd be more money cause you'd have more games between good teams. I could not care less about 2/3rds of the bowl games.
Posted by Sev09
Nantucket
Member since Feb 2011
15798 posts
Posted on 9/20/11 at 2:49 am to
quote:

I could not care less about 2/3rds of the bowl games.


Exactly. These games would make more money and get better ratings because all teams are still in the running for the national title. I don't get why people are saying a playoff system wouldn't make as much.
Posted by zeebo
Hammond
Member since Jan 2008
5406 posts
Posted on 9/20/11 at 6:39 am to
Yes. This would make the regular season as exciting as the NBA regular season. Congrats!
Posted by Cochise
North Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
1077 posts
Posted on 9/20/11 at 10:34 am to
quote:

The BCSNCG will not be played at a bowl where a finalist has previously played in the postseason. The National Championship Game should be held at the bowl site nearest both teams that neither team has played at in the first round.


this will never work. how do they presell tickets if they don't know where the game is until a week before...
Posted by jcole4lsu
The Kwisatz Haderach
Member since Nov 2007
31827 posts
Posted on 9/20/11 at 10:36 am to
quote:

Why only 4 teams?

4 teams = only 2 bowl trips for fans.

8 teams = 3 bowl trips for fans

2 trips is a lot for most fanbases, 3 isnt going to happen at all.
Posted by jcole4lsu
The Kwisatz Haderach
Member since Nov 2007
31827 posts
Posted on 9/20/11 at 10:37 am to
quote:

Exactly. These games would make more money and get better ratings

you just made that up out of your arse. if it WOULD do what you said, they would already be doing it.

all they care about is making money.
Posted by TriumphTiger
Alpharetta, GA
Member since Sep 2007
10439 posts
Posted on 9/20/11 at 11:05 am to
"Winner of that plays ND in the NCG, regardless of ND's record."

Signed,
Lou Holtz
This post was edited on 9/20/11 at 11:05 am
Posted by GeauxTigersLee
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2010
4688 posts
Posted on 9/20/11 at 12:18 pm to
quote:

It couldn't be 4 team playoff like most suggest(if the BCS went to a playoff system)
I don't see a realistic scenario where 2 teams will travel to 3 "bowl" games, and 4 teams traveling to 2 "bowl" games. Also in back-to-back-to-back weekends.

It's hard enough to sell out a game like Alabama vs Utah or Oklahoma vs UConn when it's the last game of the year. I see more money being lost in schools not being able to sell tickets than what they make in the current system.

The only way IMO to handle a situation using the bowls that makes more money is 1st round at home, 2nd/3rd round at a bowl site.
This post was edited on 9/20/11 at 12:22 pm
Posted by bradwieser
Cornell Fan
Member since May 2008
10555 posts
Posted on 9/20/11 at 12:25 pm to
Why cant we play playoff games in the home teams stadium? What is everyones deal with playing a playoff game a a nuetral site?

Why would you not want to see a Texas, USC, Nebraska come into Tiger Stadium(or i guess mountaineer field(?) for the OP) for a semi final playoff game.

Why should college football let some 3rd party take a lump of the profit?

and why wouldnt we want to give the higher ranked/seeded team the reward for a better regular season by playing at home?
This post was edited on 9/20/11 at 12:26 pm
Posted by jcole4lsu
The Kwisatz Haderach
Member since Nov 2007
31827 posts
Posted on 9/20/11 at 12:27 pm to
quote:

Why cant we play playoff games in the home teams stadium? What is everyones deal with playing a playoff game a a nuetral site?


bowl games make $$$$$
this isnt hard to figure out
Posted by bradwieser
Cornell Fan
Member since May 2008
10555 posts
Posted on 9/20/11 at 12:32 pm to
quote:

Yes. This would make the regular season as exciting as the NBA regular season. Congrats!


NBC averaged 27.2 million viewers with the Packers-Saints game.
Auburn Oregon BCS Nat'l championship avg 27.3 million viewers

yeah a playoff is killing the NFL regular season
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