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Pac-12 presidents unsure if they want to expand

Posted on 9/18/11 at 7:51 pm
Posted by TDawg1313
WA
Member since Jul 2009
12450 posts
Posted on 9/18/11 at 7:51 pm
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Pac-16 not done deal. Stories are a little bit ahead. Remains unclear if Pac-12 presidents want to expand.

Indications Tex, Okla (& OK St/Tech) might apply for Pac-12 invite early as tomorrow. Unclear what Pac-12 will do. Probably - but not sure.

Note today's stories have originated in Texas. 1 possible issue re: Pac-12 & Texas: LHN might not be downsized enough yet.

Reports today might be good indication of what Tex hopes to pitch re: slightly downsized LHN to Pac-12. Pac-12 might not take that deal.


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Issue because Pac-12 members have pooled all individual media rights. Texas wants to keep piece of pie.

They're uninterested in letting 1 member (of 16) have own media rights deal. Members went all-in to pool those


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The Pac-12 might expand, and soon. But it isn't going to do anything that's seen as bringing in a new school and providing it with special rules or preferential treatment. Nope, not even Texas.
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This post was edited on 9/18/11 at 9:08 pm
Posted by rollthatback
Member since Jun 2008
3065 posts
Posted on 9/18/11 at 7:53 pm to
It may still not happen, but I'd have a hard fricking time believing that they won't get in if these schools apply
Posted by SeattleTiger19
Member since Oct 2007
4537 posts
Posted on 9/18/11 at 7:59 pm to
Every conference has an uppser hand on Texas, why give in? Either share your revenue or go independent. They are the school on the verge of being homeless why give them their demands on this LHN?
Posted by TDawg1313
WA
Member since Jul 2009
12450 posts
Posted on 9/18/11 at 8:01 pm to
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It may still not happen, but I'd have a hard fricking time believing that they won't get in if these schools apply


Sounds like the presidents aren't gonna fold to the demands that Texas is making about their LHN. 14 teams wouldn't work with the way that the Pac-12 is set up right now. It's either going to be 16 teams or 12 teams. OU, OSU, and TT are willing to play by the Pac-12 rules, so the Pac-12 might just skip out on Texas and add a different team (or pair of teams if they deny TT) or just not expand anymore at all.
Posted by Wolf Shirt
the boardwalk
Member since Sep 2008
10690 posts
Posted on 9/18/11 at 8:03 pm to
Drop texass and add ou osu tt and boise
Posted by RunningBlake
Member since Aug 2011
4121 posts
Posted on 9/18/11 at 8:03 pm to
Good for PAC12!
Posted by TDawg1313
WA
Member since Jul 2009
12450 posts
Posted on 9/18/11 at 8:04 pm to
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boise

Not happening. Ever. I don't even think the Pac-12 will take Texas Tech if Texas doesn't agree to full revenue sharing. They could go hard after Kansas and either Kansas State or Missouri if they want to go to 16, or just keep it at 12.
Posted by Wolf Shirt
the boardwalk
Member since Sep 2008
10690 posts
Posted on 9/18/11 at 8:05 pm to
Academics? What about byu
Posted by usc6158
Member since Feb 2008
38589 posts
Posted on 9/18/11 at 8:05 pm to
Turning down UT and OU over third tier tv rights would be idiotic
Posted by TDawg1313
WA
Member since Jul 2009
12450 posts
Posted on 9/18/11 at 8:10 pm to
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Academics?

Think of a community college when you think of Boise State. Seriously.
quote:

What about byu

Cal and Stanford don't want any teams with religious affiliations in the conference, plus BYU won't play on Sundays.
Posted by TDawg1313
WA
Member since Jul 2009
12450 posts
Posted on 9/18/11 at 8:13 pm to
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Turning down UT and OU over third tier tv rights would be idiotic


Yeah, but the Pac-12 teams aren't going to make special exceptions very easily just to get Texas in the conference. USC even agreed to equal revenue sharing even though you guys were hauling in way more revenue than most Pac-10 teams. Do you think USC is going to let Texas get a special deal and more revenue than them? I really think they would be perfectly content with 12 and keeping the deal they have now.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
36448 posts
Posted on 9/18/11 at 8:14 pm to
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t Texas is making about their LHN


But but I thought the longhorn network was nothing to be up in arms over. Everyone else would do it if they had a chance. Its not a significant advantage I thought everyone would be jumping to meet any of UTs demands.

Couldnt have planned it any better haha. ACC chooses cuse and pitt over UT. Pac 12 wont give in because of the Longhorn network :rotflmao:
Posted by ornagestorm
Oregon
Member since Jun 2008
5105 posts
Posted on 9/18/11 at 8:21 pm to
I do not think the PAC should let Texas keep the LHN. The conference is stronger if everybody shares an equal amount.
Posted by saintsman49
Member since Dec 2010
655 posts
Posted on 9/18/11 at 8:22 pm to
texas has 2 choices........drop the lhn and join the coveted pac 12, or keep lhn and go independant...... i hope the pac 12 sticks to their guns and makes the shorthorns play by the same rules as everyone else, OR NOT AT ALL......
Posted by Touchdowns4LSU
Baghdad On The Bayou
Member since Oct 2004
7641 posts
Posted on 9/18/11 at 8:30 pm to
like one of the posters above said, why make any concessions to texas. They are on the cusp of getting locked out of any conference so why negotiate?
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
68593 posts
Posted on 9/18/11 at 8:34 pm to
Texas is trying to act independent, but at the same time join a conference. What a joke.
Posted by saintsman49
Member since Dec 2010
655 posts
Posted on 9/18/11 at 8:36 pm to
texas has ALWAYS acted this way, but now, teams are FED UP with their arrogance...........its about time, screw tex-arse.........
This post was edited on 9/18/11 at 8:38 pm
Posted by Tigerntx
NOLA
Member since Jul 2011
1309 posts
Posted on 9/18/11 at 8:37 pm to
Simple compromise for the LHN/PAC - include PAC programming & negotiate income above tier 3 - its doable.
Still not convinced OU wants to stay aligned with UT.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466274 posts
Posted on 9/18/11 at 8:56 pm to
quote:

texas has 2 choices........drop the lhn and join the coveted pac 12, or keep lhn and go independant

they have a 3rd: keep the big12 and add some shite teams if OU/OSU leave
Posted by LSU NO Tigah
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2005
5628 posts
Posted on 9/18/11 at 8:58 pm to
PAC-12 members would be foolish to allow Texas to keep the Longhorn Network. It's going to create the same problems it did in the Big 12.
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