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Longhorns are the victims of....
Posted on 9/15/11 at 2:41 pm
Posted on 9/15/11 at 2:41 pm
...ESPN's dangling of a shiny object (Longhorn Network) which proved too tempting to decline. The rest will soon be history, one not as scripted at it's inception. The unraveling of the Big XII, including bold moves by Nebraska and aTm, and OU's nicely played gambit, has exposed Texas to unforeseen circumstances which must on some level be uncomfortable. This may still end well for Texas simply because they are Texas, but it has created a dynamic beyond it's design or control.
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Posted on 9/15/11 at 2:55 pm to penman
Let Texas go independent like Notre Dame. They can keep their network and whoop up on 12 homecoming patsies every week.
They are not "all that" like they think, but more power to em.
They are not "all that" like they think, but more power to em.
Posted on 9/15/11 at 3:02 pm to Count Chocula
...self inflicted gunshot wound. 
Posted on 9/15/11 at 3:26 pm to Count Chocula
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go independent like Notre Dame. ... whoop up on 12 homecoming patsies every week.
0-2 Notre Dame aint whooping up on anyone lately.
Posted on 9/15/11 at 3:29 pm to penman
by definition, horns are not the victims of any outside party, force, etc.
The nutless bovines have a superiority complex, and they are getting their just desserts for it now, and - I hope - will continue to suffer for it well into the next decade.
Greed and megalomania + years of insisting on their own way = powerful recipe for disaster.
The bonus for all of us who have seen what espn has become is that the self-proclaimed WorldWideLeader is being exposed for its megalomania and greed, too.
The nutless bovines have a superiority complex, and they are getting their just desserts for it now, and - I hope - will continue to suffer for it well into the next decade.
Greed and megalomania + years of insisting on their own way = powerful recipe for disaster.
The bonus for all of us who have seen what espn has become is that the self-proclaimed WorldWideLeader is being exposed for its megalomania and greed, too.
Posted on 9/15/11 at 4:06 pm to relapse98
quote:Michigan and South Florida aint exactly 12 homecoming patsies. Texas could load up with ULMonroe, ULLafayette, Arkansas St, etc, etc.
0-2 Notre Dame aint whooping up on anyone lately.
Posted on 9/15/11 at 4:09 pm to Count Chocula
How is Texas a victim?
Texas could go to the ACC or indy or stay in a refurbished Big 12 and it will still be making crazy $. I still think the Big 10 is a possibility while keeping the LHN.
Things will be different, but what is going to go horribly wrong for Texas?
Texas could go to the ACC or indy or stay in a refurbished Big 12 and it will still be making crazy $. I still think the Big 10 is a possibility while keeping the LHN.
Things will be different, but what is going to go horribly wrong for Texas?
Posted on 9/15/11 at 4:12 pm to Dr Drunkenstein
I never said Texas was a victim of anything. They have choices, one of which is to go independent like a Notre Dame, keep their Texas Vision, load up a schedule of 12 homecoming patsies and go to a BCS bowl every year. Hows that being a victim?
Posted on 9/15/11 at 4:17 pm to Count Chocula
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load up a schedule of 12 homecoming patsies and go to a BCS bowl every year. Hows that being a victim?
Gonna be a pretty empty stadium if the games are that easy. Just don't see fans showing up to watch crap games where you slaughter the other team, gets old after awhile. I much prefer a close game (of course where my team comes out on top) to one that just drags on with 1 team scoring at will.
Posted on 9/15/11 at 4:23 pm to relapse98
quote:They don't need fans in the stadium. They got the big TV deal and they get to keep the $20M BCS bowl games pay out all to themselves. And they go 12-0 every year which helps their recruiting!
Gonna be a pretty empty stadium if the games are that easy. Just don't see fans showing up to watch crap games where you slaughter the other team, gets old after awhile.
Posted on 9/15/11 at 4:37 pm to Count Chocula
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How is Texas a victim?
Texas could go to the ACC or indy or stay in a refurbished Big 12 and it will still be making crazy $. I still think the Big 10 is a possibility while keeping the LHN.
Things will be different, but what is going to go horribly wrong for Texas?
Certainly not victims.
I think you fail to realize the consequences of "selling out". From all accounts, nothing your school has done implies yall want to go indy. It very well sounds like a patchwork big12 or the ACC are your options.
Sure, you may make money, but you're are going to take hits elsewhere.
My family is half burnt orange, and NONE of them are excited about the potential teams of competition. Much of your fanbase has already expressed disdain at the thought of playing in the ACC. Texas kids are not going to want to play on the east coast either. At this point, it seems no matter what happens, it will not be an ideal situation for UTa.
Remember, college football for us fans is about the game. Money only matters to the athletic dept. You care about the football aspect of things, and the quality of that seems to be in jeopardy.
That's what I would be upset or worried about if I were you.
Posted on 9/15/11 at 4:39 pm to Bob Ag
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Much of your fanbase has already expressed disdain at the thought of playing in the ACC.
There is no getting over the academic elitism of our Cal-alum president who will not consider the SEC. The ACC is fine. Of course, I live in the middle of ACC country and would be able to drive to a lot of games......
Posted on 9/15/11 at 4:47 pm to Dr Drunkenstein
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There is no getting over the academic elitism of our Cal-alum president who will not consider the SEC. The ACC is fine.
Fine for who? Your president or your fanbase?
Also, the idea of jumping one dying conference to another that has already been rumored to be poached in the near future does not seem ideal.
Academics are fine and all, but I seriously doubt most of your fanbase prioritizes academics over quality of the football program and its opponents.
I can understand your geographical bias though.
Posted on 9/15/11 at 4:50 pm to Count Chocula
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They don't need fans in the stadium.
BS.
If the football doesn't get people to watch the game in person, they probably won't watch at home either. The only TV money they are currently 'guaranteed' (contracts are made to be broken) is the $15 million per year for 3rd tier rights.
Those same fans are the ones that buy merchandise. If they aren't watching as much football, they won't be buying as much stuff. That merchandising is what really generates the revenue, along with ticket sales.
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they get to keep the $20M BCS bowl games pay out all to themselves
Notre Dame is independent. They do not get full BCS Bowl payouts. Notre Dame gets $1.3 million every year from the BCS. They get $4.5 million if they make it to a BCS bowl game. They do not get the $17.7 million that actual AQ conferences get.
BCS Money
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Posted on 9/15/11 at 4:51 pm to Bob Ag
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I seriously doubt most of your fanbase prioritizes academics over quality of the football program and its opponents.
Most Texas alums and fans were in shock when they first heard "ACC" because it is such a surprise and sounds weird. But, the more you think about it, it makes sense. Texas most certainly will not pull the trigger without iron-clad assurances from the big boys (Va Tech and FSU) that they are staying in the ACC.
Texas will always have some interesting regular season opponents but that isn't the end-all-be-all to us like it is to Aggies. We are more concerned with getting back to BCS games and national title games.
Posted on 9/15/11 at 4:54 pm to relapse98
quote:turn your sarcasm meter on relapse. The point of all this is that no matter which way Texas ultimately decides to go, its not a rosy picture. They go Pac 12, they lose television package, they go independent blah blah blah...
relapse98
Posted on 9/15/11 at 5:00 pm to Count Chocula
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Let Texas go independent like Notre Dame. They can keep their network and whoop up on 12 homecoming patsies every week.
and what conference will house their other sports. I don't know another conference as dumb as the Big East to give them an awesome deal house the rest of their sports without reaping any football money.
Posted on 9/15/11 at 5:48 pm to Dr Drunkenstein
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Texas will always have some interesting regular season opponents but that isn't the end-all-be-all to us like it is to Aggies. We are more concerned with getting back to BCS games and national title games.
Its funny because everyone knows what you mean by this. You basically just said, "I know we will play shitty patsies, but its the only way we can play in BCS games".
The even funnier thing is, those shitty patsies (ISU, UCLA, BU) beat your asses last year, in Austin no less. Your program is soft from Mack to the water boys.
Its going to be fun watching UCLA run all over your asses again this weekend.
Posted on 9/15/11 at 6:30 pm to Bob Ag
Victum of their greed. They were the dog wagging the tail in the Big12(10-1). Now hanging on to the ESPN tail.
I tip the hat to ESPN & shake my lowered head to UT. Didn't think the former was that smart or the latter that dumb.
Remember the ACC TV contract is with ESPN. They are in the best position to mediate (dictate?) a deal that keeps the LHN in tack.
Sure the b-ball athletes gonna love the extra air time in the middle of the week. They don't get frequent flyer miles!
I tip the hat to ESPN & shake my lowered head to UT. Didn't think the former was that smart or the latter that dumb.
Remember the ACC TV contract is with ESPN. They are in the best position to mediate (dictate?) a deal that keeps the LHN in tack.
Sure the b-ball athletes gonna love the extra air time in the middle of the week. They don't get frequent flyer miles!
Posted on 9/15/11 at 6:51 pm to Bob Ag
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Its funny because everyone knows what you mean by this. You basically just said, "I know we will play shitty patsies, but its the only way we can play in BCS games".
The Big 12 has been nothing but pansies? You do realize your are insulting your own school, right?
Look, we sucked last year - no doubt. The whole team gave up because of Gilbert. Mack surprised me by actually benching the kid. Texas now has a chance to have a respectable season.
Call our program "soft" all you like, but this soft program has finished in the top 3 of the country 2 of the last 3 seasons. When was A&M's last top 3 finish?
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