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Who will the Big Ten go after?

Posted on 9/7/11 at 8:15 am
Posted by Muahahaha
Ohio
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Posted on 9/7/11 at 8:15 am
If the SEC and Pac-12 expand to a super-conferences, who does the Big Ten go after?
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
44947 posts
Posted on 9/7/11 at 8:18 am to
When this goes down... please change your name to Big 14 or Big 16. Thank you.
Posted by hoginthesw
DFW
Member since Sep 2009
5329 posts
Posted on 9/7/11 at 8:18 am to
Mizzou I would assume is target #1, but if the ACC stands united, who else is out there?

Would the Big 10 be interested in Iowa State and the Kansas schools??

I honestly don't know shite about Iowa State, so go ahead and make fun of me for mentioning them if need be.
Posted by mre
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2009
3124 posts
Posted on 9/7/11 at 8:20 am to
Depends upon if the Big Ten still insists (or at least strongly prefers) that any new members (other than Notre Dame) be members of the AAU. If they insist upon that, then the list of potential schools is pretty short:

Public:
University of Arizona (1985)
University at Buffalo, The State University of New York (1989)
University of California, Berkeley (1900)
University of California, Los Angeles (1974)
University of Colorado at Boulder (1966)
University of Florida (1985)
Georgia Institute of Technology (2010)
Iowa State University of Science and Technology (1958)
University of Kansas (1909)
University of Maryland, College Park (1969)
University of Missouri (1908)
Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey (1989)
University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill (1922)
University of Oregon (1969)
University of Pittsburgh (1974)
University of Texas at Austin (1929)
Texas A&M University (2001)
University of Virginia (1904)
University of Washington (1950)

Private
Duke University (1938)
Rice University (1985)
University of Southern California (1969)
Stanford University (1900)
Tulane University (1958)
Vanderbilt University (1950)

Note: I'm not saying that any of these schools are more likely than others or that all of them would be considered by the Big Ten, or would seriously entertain an offer from the Big Ten. However, membership in the Big Ten comes with membership in the CIC, which is highly desirable from each university's academic point of view. This is just a list of universities in the AAU that are not currently in the Big Ten and that have FBS programs.
Posted by 12
Redneck part of Florida
Member since Nov 2010
19790 posts
Posted on 9/7/11 at 8:20 am to
I see Mizzou as a legit candidate if they don't go to the SEC. I would think a lot of the Big East teams are on the list. Pitt, UConn, Rutgers...

Also Boston College.
Posted by Muahahaha
Ohio
Member since Nov 2005
6856 posts
Posted on 9/7/11 at 8:22 am to
hoginthesw,

I would not make fun of you at all. I hope not Iowa State. they bring nothing to the table.

I thought I knew who they would go after, but after all this speculation and teams going one direction after another, I am not so sure anymore. I don't think the Big Ten (12) expected this to happen.


Notre Dame has always been their number 1 target, but they wont give up their TV deal. Missouri is the most logical one as is Oklahoma and Texas, but those two will probably go to the Pac-12.

But that still leaves the Big Ten at 13 teams and will need to go to 16 Teams. Who are the other 3?

This post was edited on 9/7/11 at 8:31 am
Posted by hoginthesw
DFW
Member since Sep 2009
5329 posts
Posted on 9/7/11 at 8:26 am to
Kansas, Kansas State (no idea about their academics, but something tells me that's not going to be an issue if the B1G's hand is forced) and....i have no clue who else.

If the Big East collapses maybe they suck up Pitt and someone else? IDK.
Posted by TopWaterTiger
Lake Charles, LA
Member since May 2006
12022 posts
Posted on 9/7/11 at 8:36 am to
I think they would accept Kansas & K State if they can land Notre Dame.

Notre Dame
Mizzou
Kansas
K State
Posted by hoginthesw
DFW
Member since Sep 2009
5329 posts
Posted on 9/7/11 at 8:37 am to
that's a solid basketball addition for sure.
Posted by RedHawk
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
9535 posts
Posted on 9/7/11 at 8:38 am to
Why does the B1G have to expand? I don't think they will expand just because everybody else is. Maybe the SEC and Pac 12 go to 16, but the B1G stands pat at 12. What is wrong with that?
Posted by Covingtiger
New Orleans Saints Fan
Member since Mar 2010
3313 posts
Posted on 9/7/11 at 8:39 am to
Pitt
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41887 posts
Posted on 9/7/11 at 8:47 am to
quote:

will need to go to 16 Teams


why the frick why??
Posted by Muahahaha
Ohio
Member since Nov 2005
6856 posts
Posted on 9/7/11 at 8:52 am to
quote:

Why does the B1G have to expand? I don't think they will expand just because everybody else is. Maybe the SEC and Pac 12 go to 16, but the B1G stands pat at 12. What is wrong with that?


RedHawk,

I agree, but the way dominoes are falling, they might be forced too. Personally, I like it at 12 teams myself; however, this might change if the Big East or ACC crumbles.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 9/7/11 at 8:53 am to
I could see the B10 raiding the BE for Pitt and Syracuse, and taking ISU and Mizzou from the Failed12.
Posted by RedHawk
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
9535 posts
Posted on 9/7/11 at 8:54 am to
quote:

forced


I don't think anybody forces Delaney to do anything. He will expand if he and the other members think it is the right thing to do, but he won't do it because everybody else is doing it.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41887 posts
Posted on 9/7/11 at 8:57 am to
quote:

BE for Pitt and Syracuse, and taking ISU and Mizzou from the Failed12.


economics 101 says that would be absolutely fn retarded; even a bigger nightmare than 'legends' and 'leaders' divisions.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 9/7/11 at 9:26 am to
quote:

economics 101 says that would be absolutely fn retarded

care to elaborate?

They would be adding NY and MO, all 4 schools are AAU members, and it makes geographical sense.

It seems like it would make more economic sense than the SEC adding WVU.
Posted by SprintFun
Columbus, OH
Member since Dec 2007
45838 posts
Posted on 9/7/11 at 9:40 am to
You are adding 4 new mouths to feed that don't bring in revenue.

The only way the Big10 is going to bring a team in is if they bring in money.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 9/7/11 at 9:46 am to
quote:

You are adding 4 new mouths to feed that don't bring in revenue.

Like I said, about like the SEC bringing in WVU.

They will NOT get ND because I don't see Delaney making any monetary concessions to the Irish and their NBC deal, and other than that, I just don't see that many AAU schools that would fit.

And no, I don't see Texas as fitting.

I don't see the BE existing as a football conference much longer - especially if they lose another football school such as WVU. I could see the B10 picking up the northern scraps of the BE.
Posted by Quidam65
Q Continuum
Member since Jun 2010
20484 posts
Posted on 9/7/11 at 9:59 am to
quote:

I could see the B10 picking up the northern scraps of the BE.


Or maybe the ACC. That group resembles people who look for deals at estate sales (I do it a lot myself).

If the Big East is as weak as one thinks the ACC could grab Pitt (respectable in football but I think overrated in basketball), UConn (elite b-ball program with an up-and-coming football program), and Syracuse (another elite b-ball program that has had football success, it is after all the alma mater of Jim Brown, IMHO the greatest running back ever). The only quirk would be that Syracuse and UConn are charter Big East members and they may be loyal to the conference.

If they could grab Rutgers they could put a serious crimp in the B1G's expansion plans. And South Florida is so far away from the rest of the conference they may be interested in a move (which, if Miami's program is disbanded or de-emphasized, could come in handy as another Florida school).
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