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What can DNA prove in this case?
Posted on 8/25/11 at 9:12 am
Posted on 8/25/11 at 9:12 am
We know JJ was there. We know he was involved in the scuffle to some degree. If the second degree battery is for a kick resulting in a back injury, how does his DNA prove or disprove anything? I would think the DNA would be evidence only if he said he was no where near the fight.
I know some had said he was the peacemaker and some say he did the kicking. Unless he has a piece of the guys vertebrae on his shoe this seems over the top.
My guess posted from this discussion: The DNA proves the shoe that belonged to JJ. Also confirm it was the shoes wore at the bar/fight. The kick doing the damage had to be in the shirt area of the victim. If the confirmed shoes have shirt fibers gilty. If they do not innocent. Any kick that hard had to leave the shirt evidence on the shoe. Anybody have something else?
I know some had said he was the peacemaker and some say he did the kicking. Unless he has a piece of the guys vertebrae on his shoe this seems over the top.
My guess posted from this discussion: The DNA proves the shoe that belonged to JJ. Also confirm it was the shoes wore at the bar/fight. The kick doing the damage had to be in the shirt area of the victim. If the confirmed shoes have shirt fibers gilty. If they do not innocent. Any kick that hard had to leave the shirt evidence on the shoe. Anybody have something else?
This post was edited on 8/25/11 at 9:48 am
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Posted on 8/25/11 at 9:16 am to tc5140
It is puzzling.
Posted on 8/25/11 at 9:17 am to tc5140
Maybe blood on the shoe? just guessing
Posted on 8/25/11 at 9:18 am to tc5140
Blood on the shoe/lower pants leg.
Posted on 8/25/11 at 9:18 am to tc5140
just in case he jizzed on the victim before he left the scene of the crime
Posted on 8/25/11 at 9:19 am to tc5140
Fibers from the guy's clothes/guy's blood on JJ's shoe?
Maybe JJ's (or whomever's) shoe can be traced to the guy's shirt where he was kicked, like a footprint or residue or something from the bottom of the shoe?
Seems like a stretch to me.
ETA I do not understand the need for JJ's DNA, but the police probably know more information than us and are just covering their bases.
Maybe JJ's (or whomever's) shoe can be traced to the guy's shirt where he was kicked, like a footprint or residue or something from the bottom of the shoe?
Seems like a stretch to me.
ETA I do not understand the need for JJ's DNA, but the police probably know more information than us and are just covering their bases.
This post was edited on 8/25/11 at 9:20 am
Posted on 8/25/11 at 9:20 am to tc5140
Yea I'm drawing a blank on JJ's DNA. I could understand the shoe thing.
I still cannot believe we are talking about DNA testing for a goddamn bar fight.
I still cannot believe we are talking about DNA testing for a goddamn bar fight.
Posted on 8/25/11 at 9:21 am to tc5140
If Jefferson has blood, hair, skin tissue, or anything else that contains DNA from one or more of the alleged victims, on his clothes or shoes, it definitely places him at the scene of the incident. It also indicates that he was in very close proximity to the alleged victim.
Posted on 8/25/11 at 9:23 am to tc5140
I was wondering this myself. It's not like you are trying to prove or disprove JJ being on premises at all. We know he was at shady's. so there is some DNA somewhere. Unless JJ has a bloody hand and they want to match it to the kids shirt (doubtful) then the means for DNA testing are absurd.
THIS WAS A GOD DAMN BAR FIGHT. We aren't tracking down a f'n serial killer. What a waste of my tax dollars.
THIS WAS A GOD DAMN BAR FIGHT. We aren't tracking down a f'n serial killer. What a waste of my tax dollars.
Posted on 8/25/11 at 9:26 am to tc5140
It can shed light on the whole story. For instance, hypothetically JJ could have appeared at the interview with cuts on his hand which he explained as the result of football. If it is then established that his blood is at the scene it calls his whole story into question.
On the other hand, it could b powerful evidence if none of the blood at the scene belongs to JJ.
remember, Stone said they are looking for evidence to prove his guilt or innocence.
On the other hand, it could b powerful evidence if none of the blood at the scene belongs to JJ.
remember, Stone said they are looking for evidence to prove his guilt or innocence.
Posted on 8/25/11 at 9:34 am to tc5140
I'm sure they are doing DNA test probably because JJ's story is in direct conflict with the story of one of the alledged victim's and they may have some DNA evidence and they are trying to match the DNA.If JJ said he was not at or near fight and the alledged victims blood shows up on JJ clothes or shoes, JJ will have a hard time explaining how the victim's blood got on items belonging to him.
Posted on 8/25/11 at 9:44 am to tc5140
Its obvious they took the shoe to sell it on e-bay. It could bring a pretty penny.
Posted on 8/25/11 at 11:14 am to tc5140
probably spit on him too. if you're that big a piece of shite to kick a guy on the ground, spitting on a guy while he's down is par for the course.
what a dipshit.
what a dipshit.
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