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Posted on 8/3/11 at 7:08 am to
Posted by swampdawg
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2007
5141 posts
Posted on 8/3/11 at 7:08 am to
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Anyone have thoughts/opinions on black Kölsch? I'm not familiar, but I enjoy St. Arnold. What say ye, OT?


I think it will be interesting to try, but sounds gimmicky. I can't really think of how this will be very good, as Kolsch as a style is very light tasting. Any roastiness would be weird. They would have to use Sinimar to color it to prevent roastiness.
Posted by Tiger HouTX
H-Town
Member since Nov 2007
3521 posts
Posted on 8/3/11 at 9:40 am to
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It's nothing crazy but it's different- Tour Info. I think it is $7 and you get an 8 oz glass and tokens for 4 or 5 beers. These are all rough estimates, and probably neatly outlined in the link provided. Like I said, good start to a day.


it is $7. and you get a small 8 oz. glass. but if you bring 10 six pack holder you can get a free pint glass. or you can just buy a pint glass there and get much more beer for each token. If you go, get there early or you won't get a place to sit at a table. Been twice, was a great time. Bring some food too.

Enjoy most of their beers, but the Lawnmower is my fav. Did not enjoy the weedwacker, probably because I was expecting something similar to the Lawnmower. In any case, a fun morning/afternoon if you decide to go.

and to all the Texas haters. Don't get me wrong, i hate the ut footbal fans just as much as everyone else.
Posted by tetu
Ascension Parish
Member since Jan 2011
12269 posts
Posted on 8/3/11 at 9:52 am to
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Did not enjoy the weedwacker
I think thats my favorite beer I've had from them (outside of divine reserve).

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to all the Texas haters.

When your next door neighbor talks about his new lawnmower or tv everytime you see him, it get old.
Posted by kfizzle85
Member since Dec 2005
22022 posts
Posted on 8/3/11 at 9:53 am to
So far all of the people I've met in Houston have been extremely nice.
Posted by s14suspense
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
14818 posts
Posted on 8/3/11 at 10:23 am to
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JescoWhite


IDK man. I'm trying to remember what the black beer I had at the cove the other day that was in a grolsch style bottle and it was from the UK if I remember correctly. Don't know what it was classified as but I feel like it could have been similar.

BUT St. Arnold says they just came up with this style. So probably not many people have a reference for it.
Posted by tetu
Ascension Parish
Member since Jan 2011
12269 posts
Posted on 8/3/11 at 10:35 am to
I googled it and all I could find was people talking about homebrewing a dark kolsch. It seems strange, like brewing a dark saison (which is being done on a very small scale). But like i said, i applaud them for trying something new and different.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41957 posts
Posted on 8/3/11 at 10:38 am to
Schwarzbier. Sounds a lot like it.....

Sam Adams makes a Schwarzbier, but they call it their black lager:

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When one sees a beer with a darker complexion these days, more often than not it’s a porter or a stout. But looks can be deceiving. There exists a style older than both and generally less well known; the schwarzbier, which literally translates to “Black Beer.” Unlike its dark cousins which are ales hailing from Britain, schwarzbier comes from Germany and uses a bottom fermenting lager yeast. Samuel Adams Black Lager is brewed in the tradition of the latter. A medium bodied beer brewed using several different roasts of malt to create a smooth body and depth of malt character that has to be tasted to be believed.


Shiner makes a black lager which looks to be somewhere in between styles of either schwarzbier or American black lager:

quote:

Bohemian Black Lager, crafted according to exacting old-world standards with imported Czech Saaz, Styrians Hops and selected roasted malts, is the darkest beer we brew. Initially added to the Shiner family as our 97 Anniversary Brew, the unique and complex flavor of this rare brew found such a following among our customers that we brought it back for good!
Posted by s14suspense
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
14818 posts
Posted on 8/3/11 at 10:40 am to
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It seems strange, like brewing a dark saison (which is being done on a very small scale).


Pretty sure one of the anniversary beers I heard about in Birmingham was a black rye saison with some other adjective in there like barrel aged or dry hopped. Maybe great divide?
Posted by swampdawg
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2007
5141 posts
Posted on 8/3/11 at 11:02 am to
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Schwarzbier. Sounds a lot like it.....


Agreed, but if it is, why not just call it a schwarzbier? A kolsch should not have a malty, roasty flavor like a schwarz though. It is a very light tasting beer. I believe the fancy lawnmower beer is a kolsch.
Posted by swampdawg
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2007
5141 posts
Posted on 8/3/11 at 11:04 am to
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It seems strange, like brewing a dark saison (which is being done on a very small scale).


I don't think a dark saison sounds all that weird, but I have never tried one. Saisons have very bold flavors that would likely combine well with roastiness. I would like to try one, but don't know of any.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
102131 posts
Posted on 8/3/11 at 11:06 am to
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I believe the fancy lawnmower beer is a kolsch.


This is correct.
Posted by tetu
Ascension Parish
Member since Jan 2011
12269 posts
Posted on 8/3/11 at 11:12 am to
Just meant that saison's and kolsch's make me think of a refreshing summer beer, which they were traditionally (at least saisons were). Now we have high abv saisons, and even some dark ones.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41957 posts
Posted on 8/3/11 at 11:13 am to
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Agreed, but if it is, why not just call it a schwarzbier?


Schwarzbier is a lager. Kolsch uses kolsch yeast. My point was that there are two very similar commercial brews out there that should get you close to the one listed in the OP if you can't find that one.
Posted by tetu
Ascension Parish
Member since Jan 2011
12269 posts
Posted on 8/3/11 at 11:14 am to
I just wiki'd saison. This sounded interesting:

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Saisons brewed in early Spring would often be blended with saisons brewed the previous Autumn, or even blended with lambic beers to increase the refreshing acidity of these beers
Posted by swampdawg
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2007
5141 posts
Posted on 8/3/11 at 11:57 am to
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Schwarzbier is a lager. Kolsch uses kolsch yeast. My point was that there are two very similar commercial brews out there that should get you close to the one listed in the OP if you can't find that one.


True. I just wonder how similar they really are. Hopefully we will begin to get more St. Arnolds distributed around here so it is relatively easy to try.
Posted by JescoWhite
Ripped Out Of The Frame
Member since Jul 2011
778 posts
Posted on 8/3/11 at 1:46 pm to
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Hopefully we will begin to get more St. Arnolds distributed around here so it is relatively easy to try.


I agree- they had a 'job posting' for a salesman in the South LA area in their email newsletter a few months ago. I thought this was promising....

Found it:

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Many of you may know that we broke with our "exclusively in Texas" late last year when we looked at a map and saw Louisiana was closer to us than most of Texas. Now we are looking for somebody to spread the gospel of Saint Arnold there. This person will need to live in Baton Rouge or New Orleans, want to wake up every morning and go out and sell Saint Arnold's, like doing promotions in the evenings and festivals on the weekends. There will be a fair amount of motoring around the state, but our biggest sales areas are Baton Rouge, New Orleans, the north shore of Lake Pontchartrain and Lake Charles. This will be an entry level position. If interested, please send a resume to Kathy (kathy_colwell@saintarnold.com).
Posted by tetu
Ascension Parish
Member since Jan 2011
12269 posts
Posted on 8/3/11 at 1:52 pm to
Yeah I went and got interviewed. Didn't get the job but the founder, Brock, said that they planned on getting more of their beer to LA by the end of the year.
Posted by Haydo
DTX
Member since Jul 2011
2967 posts
Posted on 8/3/11 at 1:53 pm to
St. Arnold's Summer Pills

Anyone know when they're going to stop brewing it?
Posted by Kingwood Tiger
Katy, TX
Member since Jul 2005
14162 posts
Posted on 8/3/11 at 3:29 pm to
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Yeah I went and got interviewed. Didn't get the job but the founder, Brock, said that they planned on getting more of their beer to LA by the end of the year.


Damn I was looking forward to lots of free beer

Houston peeps....check out No Label Brewing out of Katy also.
Posted by swampdawg
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2007
5141 posts
Posted on 8/3/11 at 3:32 pm to
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St. Arnold's Summer Pills


I am also a fan of this.
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