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Should Tharold Simon Start over T-Rex on the Outside?

Posted on 4/12/11 at 4:20 pm
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
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Posted on 4/12/11 at 4:20 pm
Interesting little read

I think I like Mathieu's play on the inside as well.

Though, I don't really doubt his ability to transition to playing outside... kid seems like he can do just about anything he wants.
Posted by The Boat
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Posted on 4/12/11 at 4:21 pm to
Probably

I love the long corners
Posted by jackson123
Dallas
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Posted on 4/12/11 at 4:23 pm to
Yes. Let little ball of hate run around and make plays.
Posted by ehidal1
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Posted on 4/12/11 at 4:23 pm to
I really like Simon at CB. I love the play of T-Rex and don't want him to get cast as a 'blitz only/nickel' guy but damn Simon has natural cover skills.

That and the position battle between Reid and Loston...good position to be in. Coop is the man!
Posted by GeauxAggie972
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Posted on 4/12/11 at 4:23 pm to
I would still put T-Rex on the outside in 2 CB formations though. You gotta have him on the field as much as you can

Now if we go to the Nickel or more, then I would move him inside because I think Simon really showed his worth in the Spring game
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 4/12/11 at 4:26 pm to
Its a good question. The way Simon handled RR makes me think he's a better fit(just because of size). The thing about a timed throw, you just can't jump, so height really matters. Simon showed me he is ready. I want TM around the ball, also, not on an island.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
175894 posts
Posted on 4/12/11 at 4:26 pm to
Who knows how Mathieu will play against better receivers.

Joe Adams made him look a fool last season.
Posted by GFunk
Denham Springs
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 4/12/11 at 4:27 pm to
Simon & Claiborne are you two cornerbacks for the next two years.

Mathieu is too valuable in the nickel. He'll play at Corner only if there's an injury.
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 4/12/11 at 4:30 pm to
quote:

Joe Adams made him look a fool last season.


That and the Tennessee game by Justin Hunter are the only two times I can really remember him getting "Burned" and against Hunter, it was more of an issue where he just didn't get his head around in time to make a play.. he was in position.

One thing I do like about Mathieu on the outside is he doesn't lack confidence and playing cover corner is a lot like playing QB. If you get burned, you gotta just shake it off and keep at it.. short memory. And he has it.
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
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Posted on 4/12/11 at 4:30 pm to
Myron Lewis 2.0?
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 4/12/11 at 4:32 pm to
Mathieu is too valuable in the nickel. This
Posted by musick
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Posted on 4/12/11 at 4:35 pm to
TM7 should play roaming blitzing back no doubt. This article brings up a great point (and to me, the most important) he is 5'9
Posted by ehidal1
Chief Boot Knocka
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/12/11 at 4:35 pm to
quote:

Joe Adams made him look a fool last season

That goes back to your long corners comment. If Simon is in the exact same position as T-Rex was on that play, he deflects that ball on the 4th down.
Posted by DFWLSUTX
Dallas
Member since Jan 2011
1697 posts
Posted on 4/12/11 at 4:38 pm to
I say Simon over Ty mat for sure.....as we saw with PP7 a team can almost take you out of the game by not throwing to your side....With Ty matt I want him to be around the ball anytime he can where QBs have to know where he is at all times....hes a beast at batting, stripping balls out...

I dont think their will be any doubt where simon and ty mat will be in goal line situations...ty mat roaming around and odds are with Simon playing corner..no team is going to throw a lob to their WR with him on them.
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 4/12/11 at 4:40 pm to
quote:

This article brings up a great point (and to me, the most important) he is 5'9




There's a lot of really good corners around that height in the NFL, namely Revis and Asante Samuel, who are probably both closer to 5'9 than their listed heights...

My opinion is that height is an overrated attribute when it comes to corners. It's nice to have, but usually taller corners aren't as explosive, so what you gain in covering the jump ball, you lose in covering just about everything else.
Posted by GeauxAggie972
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Posted on 4/12/11 at 4:41 pm to
Also, you have to consider a guy like Micah Eugene coming in as well. Plays very similar to Mathieu and is 5'11". After seeing more film on Eugene, I think he could make an impact next year
Posted by DFWLSUTX
Dallas
Member since Jan 2011
1697 posts
Posted on 4/12/11 at 4:43 pm to
Yeah I agree...most of the big names that our CBs in the NFL are not very tall but my point is I still like Ty mat roaming around.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 4/12/11 at 4:45 pm to
Asante is a horrible coverage corner though, he bites on pump fakes like a mofo, and will jump the shite out of routes. He has talent, but as far as locking someone up and taking them out of the game... no.
Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
9833 posts
Posted on 4/12/11 at 5:06 pm to
quote:

Simon & Claiborne are you two cornerbacks for the next two years.

Mathieu is too valuable in the nickel. He'll play at Corner only if there's an injury


this, besides nickel is run more then anything...just not at the start..
Posted by fnchdrms87
Fairfax Station, VA
Member since Jun 2010
893 posts
Posted on 4/12/11 at 5:11 pm to
Ok Carter Bryant, Tiger Rant et al.

It is Ronnie VINSON not VINCENT.

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