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Patrick Peterson pay for play allegations
Posted on 3/30/11 at 9:03 pm
Posted on 3/30/11 at 9:03 pm
Why stories like this coming out so much lately?
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Willie Lyles, who runs Texas-based recruiting service which is under NCAA investigation after receiving $25,000 from Oregon, told Texas A&M it had to "beat" $80,000 if it wanted to sign star recruit Patrick Peterson in 2007, a former Texas A&M coach told ESPN on Wednesday.
Van Malone, the former defensive secondary coach at Texas A&M, told ESPN that Lyles phoned him in 2007 after Peterson had visited the College Station campus.
"A few days after the kid's visit, Will calls and says, 'If you want this kid, there are other schools that want this kids as well. They're willing to pay a certain amount of money, around the $80,000 mark,'" Malone said. "He said that was something we were going to have to beat as a university to be able to obtain the services of this kid."
Peterson originally committed to the University of Miami but ended up signing with LSU. Now a junior, he has declared for the NFL draft and is the No. 1 player on ESPN draft guru Mel Kiper's Big Board.
Malone is an assistant coach at Tulane University. He said he told Lyles that A&M doesn't pay for football players. Malone said he did call Peterson to let him know that Lyles was trying to sell his services.
Neither Peterson nor Lyles could be reached Wednesday night. Peterson's father, Patrick Peterson Sr., said he remembers taking the visit with his son to Texas A&M.
Peterson Sr. described his son's visit to Texas A&M as a good trip. But he said he had a feeling his son would end up playing in the Southeastern Conference, not the Big 12. He said he had not heard any allegations that Lyles was asking schools for money for his son.
"This is my first time hearing this. This is a shocker," Peterson Sr. told ESPN. "It could have happened. It could have come out of [Lyles'] mouth, that's what happens. These guys try to make money on their own, they are kind of like escort services. That's what I call them, escort services."
Peterson Sr. said he has talked to Lyles at some football camps, but other than that, he said he has no relationship with Lyles. He said Lyles, when they've talked, is often asking him for information on players from Ely High School in Pompano Beach, Fla., which is his son's alma mater.
"It's like Cam Newton, same thing," Peterson Sr. said, referring to the Heisman Trophy winner and former Auburn quarterback whose father was found to have asked for up to $180,000 for him to play at Mississippi State. "These guys -- they are trying to get paid. You have to be careful who you talk to, who you deal with it. I just know him [Lyles] from the camps."
LSU officials could not be reached for comment. A Texas A&M spokesman said the university was unaware of Malone's comments about Lyles. Malone said he never told then-Texas A&M coach Dennis Franchione about Lyles request because he planned to continue to recruit Peterson without going through Lyles.
Earlier, LSU officials confirmed the school paid $6,000 to Complete Scouting Services, a college recruiting firm that employs Lyles. An LSU spokesman said the school did receive a DVD from Lyles in exchange for the $6,000.
The NCAA is looking into Oregon's $25,000 payment to Lyles' firm and his involvement in the recruitment of running back Lache Seastrunk, of Temple, Texas, who ended up signing with the Ducks. Oregon has confirmed it paid for the service.
Peterson, who changed his last name from Johnson, was considered the top defensive back in the nation during his senior year in high school in 2007.
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Willie Lyles, who runs Texas-based recruiting service which is under NCAA investigation after receiving $25,000 from Oregon, told Texas A&M it had to "beat" $80,000 if it wanted to sign star recruit Patrick Peterson in 2007, a former Texas A&M coach told ESPN on Wednesday.
Van Malone, the former defensive secondary coach at Texas A&M, told ESPN that Lyles phoned him in 2007 after Peterson had visited the College Station campus.
"A few days after the kid's visit, Will calls and says, 'If you want this kid, there are other schools that want this kids as well. They're willing to pay a certain amount of money, around the $80,000 mark,'" Malone said. "He said that was something we were going to have to beat as a university to be able to obtain the services of this kid."
Peterson originally committed to the University of Miami but ended up signing with LSU. Now a junior, he has declared for the NFL draft and is the No. 1 player on ESPN draft guru Mel Kiper's Big Board.
Malone is an assistant coach at Tulane University. He said he told Lyles that A&M doesn't pay for football players. Malone said he did call Peterson to let him know that Lyles was trying to sell his services.
Neither Peterson nor Lyles could be reached Wednesday night. Peterson's father, Patrick Peterson Sr., said he remembers taking the visit with his son to Texas A&M.
Peterson Sr. described his son's visit to Texas A&M as a good trip. But he said he had a feeling his son would end up playing in the Southeastern Conference, not the Big 12. He said he had not heard any allegations that Lyles was asking schools for money for his son.
"This is my first time hearing this. This is a shocker," Peterson Sr. told ESPN. "It could have happened. It could have come out of [Lyles'] mouth, that's what happens. These guys try to make money on their own, they are kind of like escort services. That's what I call them, escort services."
Peterson Sr. said he has talked to Lyles at some football camps, but other than that, he said he has no relationship with Lyles. He said Lyles, when they've talked, is often asking him for information on players from Ely High School in Pompano Beach, Fla., which is his son's alma mater.
"It's like Cam Newton, same thing," Peterson Sr. said, referring to the Heisman Trophy winner and former Auburn quarterback whose father was found to have asked for up to $180,000 for him to play at Mississippi State. "These guys -- they are trying to get paid. You have to be careful who you talk to, who you deal with it. I just know him [Lyles] from the camps."
LSU officials could not be reached for comment. A Texas A&M spokesman said the university was unaware of Malone's comments about Lyles. Malone said he never told then-Texas A&M coach Dennis Franchione about Lyles request because he planned to continue to recruit Peterson without going through Lyles.
Earlier, LSU officials confirmed the school paid $6,000 to Complete Scouting Services, a college recruiting firm that employs Lyles. An LSU spokesman said the school did receive a DVD from Lyles in exchange for the $6,000.
The NCAA is looking into Oregon's $25,000 payment to Lyles' firm and his involvement in the recruitment of running back Lache Seastrunk, of Temple, Texas, who ended up signing with the Ducks. Oregon has confirmed it paid for the service.
Peterson, who changed his last name from Johnson, was considered the top defensive back in the nation during his senior year in high school in 2007.
This post was edited on 3/30/11 at 9:24 pm
Posted on 3/30/11 at 9:05 pm to LSUalldaway18
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Why stories like this coming out so much lately?
Because they're popular
Posted on 3/30/11 at 9:07 pm to The Boat
yeah I just hope none of them r true
Posted on 3/30/11 at 9:07 pm to LSUalldaway18
because people are "paying" attention AND MOST IMPORTANTLY they are ALL trying to get the SEC schools out of the NC game!
Posted on 3/30/11 at 9:08 pm to LSUalldaway18
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yeah I just hope none of them r true
Posted on 3/30/11 at 9:10 pm to LSUalldaway18
shite tons of writers are starting to dig and dig to make a name for themselves
Posted on 3/30/11 at 9:12 pm to The Boat
fame whores. like he wouldnt tell the HC that this mofo was asking for 80k. He kept it to himself and kept recruiting
yeah, whatever motherfricker. 4 years later this douche tries to get his name in the paper.
poor fricker, he coaches at tulane
oh how the mighty have fallen. enjoy your 10 minutes beehotch

poor fricker, he coaches at tulane

oh how the mighty have fallen. enjoy your 10 minutes beehotch
Posted on 3/30/11 at 9:16 pm to TopWaterTiger
Key words are : Asst coach for TULANE" !
Posted on 3/30/11 at 9:16 pm to TopWaterTiger
LSU doesn't have to pya kids like PP. They want to play in teh SEC and for yearly national contenders (think LSU 2007)!
Now think AnM 2007...of course they would need to pay the top D player in the nation to go to that DUMP.
Now think AnM 2007...of course they would need to pay the top D player in the nation to go to that DUMP.
Posted on 3/30/11 at 9:17 pm to TopWaterTiger
maybe it evaluated a number of recruits
This post was edited on 3/30/11 at 9:22 pm
Posted on 3/30/11 at 9:19 pm to gotygers
$6,000 for all the JC footage from Cali and Tx ? YES.
Posted on 3/30/11 at 9:20 pm to LSU77
thats what i was thinking, it was an evaluation of numerous recruits
Posted on 3/30/11 at 9:22 pm to LSU77
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$6,000 for all the JC footage from Cali and Tx ? YES.
It's about 70 schools, so yeah, I'd say buying film from a third party for 70 schools worth of prospects is worth $6000. It's that much less legwork that the staff has to do tracking down film, talking to JUCO coaches, etc.
Posted on 3/30/11 at 9:23 pm to gotygers
I don't doubt Will Lyles was trying to shop kids around. But Peterson, well, his dad is a pretty active figure, and Lyles is more known for trying to get personally involved with fatherless kids so he can exert some influence.
I think a lot of what Lyles did was tag his name to big players in order to draw some change out of stupid assistants.
I think a lot of what Lyles did was tag his name to big players in order to draw some change out of stupid assistants.
Posted on 3/30/11 at 9:23 pm to ProjectP2294
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's that much less legwork that the staff has to do tracking down film, talking to JUCO coaches
And, at least for high schoolers, coaches aren't even allowed around the kids unless it's an official visit or the coaches visit at an official school event.
That means coaches are entirely dependent on scouts for 7v7 coverage
Posted on 3/30/11 at 9:24 pm to Stewie Griffin
It's a witchhunt. GL from an OSU fan.
Posted on 3/30/11 at 9:25 pm to LesMilesMorePryor
NCAA looks bad in all this and will come down hard on someone. Maybe Lyles, maybe OU, probably not LSU unless there emerges some concrete evidence. We'll see.
Posted on 3/30/11 at 9:26 pm to LSUalldaway18
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Why stories like this coming out so much lately?
You posted this on the Rant.
You decided to label it: "Patrick Peterson pay for play"
You claim to be 15 years old:
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