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Why do we suck so bad in basketball?

Posted on 2/3/11 at 11:45 am
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 2/3/11 at 11:45 am
Coaching?

Recruiting?

Lack of in state talent lately?

I don't pay attention much but i am starting to miss Brady Ball...
Posted by Trent
Member since Jan 2008
2151 posts
Posted on 2/3/11 at 11:46 am to
Because LaMont Roland got hurt all those years ago...
Posted by slutiger5
Parroquias de Florida
Member since May 2007
11797 posts
Posted on 2/3/11 at 11:47 am to
tyrus thomas left so damn early!
Posted by Bubba Hotep
Member since Nov 2003
9330 posts
Posted on 2/3/11 at 11:50 am to
quote:

I don't pay attention


Then don't start now.
Posted by Tigerpaul1969
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Jan 2010
4673 posts
Posted on 2/3/11 at 11:53 am to
At least we didn't get blown out last night. That was getting brutal.
Posted by KingHippo
Member since May 2009
3744 posts
Posted on 2/3/11 at 11:55 am to
Because the transition from depending on Juco players to 4 year guys means that you are going to depend on young guys who are developing those first 2 years.

And we haven't had any "1 and done" type players in LA to season the pot which adds to the grief
Posted by lsutiger4life
gonzales
Member since Sep 2005
5365 posts
Posted on 2/3/11 at 12:06 pm to
relying on the 4 year guys will be good in long run. problem is we dont have those 4 year guys yet. when ludwig derenbecker stringet etc are in year 3-4 then you can add a couple avg new guys and 1-2 studs and start seeing success .
Posted by s_i5
Earth
Member since Jul 2004
2020 posts
Posted on 2/3/11 at 12:10 pm to
Basketball??
Posted by geauxruston
RUSTON
Member since Apr 2009
4159 posts
Posted on 2/3/11 at 12:18 pm to
Coaching has a lot to do with it. If you're state doesn't have the talent, you have to go else where to get it. Therefore, recruiting is also a major problem. He's had only one good season since he led the Tigers to the Final Four in 2006 and that was 2008.
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 2/3/11 at 12:19 pm to
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Because LaMont Roland got hurt all those years ago...



There's some truth to this. With Lamont, we at least get to the NIT and possibly an NCAA berth the following year. He was THAT crucial on defense. Not since Oliver Brown and Bernard Woodside had we had a g/f that good on defense.

Also, LLoreda's injury and attitude in 2004...if we beat Florida (which we did), but Lloreda stays 100 percent, we could have done a LOT of damage in the tourney. Instead, we left it all on the court in Gainesville and win 1 of our final 8 games. That season may have springboarded us.

Tons of reasons and you can go back to various points. Attrition from Brady following sanctions...Randolph staying one year that meant little...various recruits like DJ Augustine and KC Ross-Miller - one single atom in space moves the other way and they're both playing for LSU.


Bottom line, our fortune cookie reads "You're shite outta luck."
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
34006 posts
Posted on 2/3/11 at 12:22 pm to
quote:

Coaching has a lot to do with it. If you're state doesn't have the talent, you have to go else where to get it. Therefore, recruiting is also a major problem. He's had only one good season since he led the Tigers to the Final Four in 2006 and that was 2008.


If you're talking about the 08-09 season, then you do know Trent Johnson was LSU's coach that season?

07-08 was when Brady got fired (and the team wasn't very good)
Posted by TGHub
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2008
2261 posts
Posted on 2/3/11 at 12:25 pm to
quote:

Coaching has a lot to do with it. If you're state doesn't have the talent, you have to go else where to get it. Therefore, recruiting is also a major problem. He's had only one good season since he led the Tigers to the Final Four in 2006 and that was 2008.
Great post IMO! Lots of factual insight
Posted by CaseyMc2
Louisiana Native
Member since Feb 2009
4092 posts
Posted on 2/3/11 at 12:32 pm to
This is not a knock on Johnson but, We do need a Coach that recruits with the heavey hitters and that will mean going out and hiring a Coach that is respected as such. Do not expect to play with the big boys unless you have a Coach that can recruit with the big boys.

LSU is too respected of a competitor in all Sports not to have a Basketball Coach that represents that respect, it is embarrising to say the least and why the Athletic department does not feel this way is beyound me. LSU has never been GREAT in Basketball they have been good at times but, never great as in Basketball Champs great.

If LSU ever wants to compete year end and year out they have to start with a Coach that reflects that and going after these want-a-be great Coaches is not going to get LSU there. There are too many great Coaches out there that would love to come to a program such as LSU to create a winning program with the avid Fans LSU has. JMHO!

I still say no matter the arguement it starts with a great Coach and if we are not going there then stop with all the talk of wanting a winning program in Basketball! Period!
Posted by natedawgslu10
BR
Member since Dec 2007
1948 posts
Posted on 2/3/11 at 12:37 pm to
quote:

There are too many great Coaches out there that would love to come to a program such as LSU to create a winning program with the avid Fans LSU has. JMHO!


wrong
Posted by rdw1690
Member since Mar 2010
6469 posts
Posted on 2/3/11 at 12:38 pm to
I think it's mainly cause were so young. O'Bryant will be a huge addition next year.
Posted by Weaver
Madisonville, LA
Member since Nov 2005
28033 posts
Posted on 2/3/11 at 12:39 pm to
shhhhhh...don't tell anyone, but we aren't a basketball school
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 2/3/11 at 12:43 pm to
LSU can be and is a basketball school. Texas considers themselves a football school, but look at their basketball program since turn of the century.

We went to the postseason from 1981 thru 1993...and 2 final 4's in there. We're not outdated. We can be that same program.

Maybe the problem is the ASSISTANT coaches. Are any of them go getters and no-sleep madmen when it comes to recruiting? I really know nothing of any of them except that love to grab some drinks at Walk-On's.

Back in the day, Ron Abernanthy and Johnny Jones were bloodhounds on the recruiting trails. Dale had a system...he'd take Europe and Africa; Ron would take the west and east coasts; Johnny and Craig Carse take the state of LA and deep south. It worked.

Brady had Butch Pierre and used CT, Jr. like a cheap whore...but in a good way.

What are the backgrounds on this current staff's recruiting abilities? How did they get kids to come to Nevada? How did they keep kids from buying back into the UNLV and Fresno State programs?
This post was edited on 2/3/11 at 12:44 pm
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
175851 posts
Posted on 2/3/11 at 12:55 pm to
LSU's a "football" school, but we've managed to get lightning in the bottle before with men's basketball. The women's program was pretty steady for a while, we've had other great programs like track and field, I just don't understand why the same football/state university passion doesn't translate to LSU basketball. You would have thought maybe in a weird way having the hornets in new orleans would increase the state's basketball reputation in the slightest of ways.

I don't see Trent Richardson anything other than a failure at this point in time. Brady at least had some very good years.
Posted by medtiger
Member since Sep 2003
21954 posts
Posted on 2/3/11 at 1:01 pm to
quote:

There are too many great Coaches out there that would love to come to a program such as LSU to create a winning program with the avid Fans LSU has. JMHO!


You mean those avid basketball fans that don't sell out the PMAC when the team wins the SEC with a 13-3 record in conference?
Posted by natedawgslu10
BR
Member since Dec 2007
1948 posts
Posted on 2/3/11 at 1:02 pm to
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I don't see Trent Richardson anything other than a failure at this point in time. Brady at least had some very good years.



just give him some time....now that Ingram's gone he should do pretty well
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