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1) BYU 1984
2) Miami 1983
3) Penn State 1982
4) Florida State 1993 (I know they were in the ACC by that point, but they won the NC in their 2nd year of membership - it was a meteoric rise).

This is all wrong.

Independent teams are not cinderellas. Was Notre Dame a cinderella in 88'?

Miami's program rose quickly...so that one is debatable. But then again, Boise and TCU rose pretty damn fast too. That's the nature of the beast. What about LSU in 03'...they were pretty crappy a couple years before. Surprise champion? Yes. But your definition of cinderella is skewed.

BYU was not from a power conference...so I get your point there.

FSU?!? They were top ranked in the land OVER an undefeated Nebraska team despite having a loss to their record (the epic ND clash). They were favored. And tell me...what was their preseason rank.

Penn State was an established power going to major bowl games left and right. How the hell are they a cinderella?

I don't get this whatsoever. Some of the champs in your list were favorites in the preseason.

Your logic should suggest that 2003 LSU, 2000 Oklahoma, 1998 Tennessee are all cinderellas.

And seriously...you are messed up if you don't include 1990 Georgia Tech.

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Posted by TxTiger82

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Posted on 1/26/11 at 3:29 pm to TexasTiger08

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Notre Dame a cinderella in 88'?

They are pretty much a special case.

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Miami's program rose quickly...so that one is debatable. But then again, Boise and TCU rose pretty damn fast too

TCU faster than Boise. For Boise it has been a 20 year process.

Miami's rise was pretty phenomenal. Like the sport had never seen before and hasn't seen since.

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What about LSU in 03'

1) Already addressed. We were in the SEC, and winning the SEC gets you cred.

2) We had won the SEC two years before, so not a cinderella.

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Penn State was an established power going to major bowl games left and right. How the hell are they a cinderella?

They were basically a Boise State back then. They kept going undefeated and kept getting snubbed by the polls. 1982 was the first time they broke through.

So I would disagree that Penn State was an established power. They were an independent team that had never won a championship.