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re: Has LSU dropped the Redemptorist RB charged with rape?

Posted on 1/20/11 at 5:28 pm to
Posted by kgcTigerFan
Metairie, LA
Member since Feb 2009
56 posts
Posted on 1/20/11 at 5:28 pm to
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A 14 year old HS freshman is not the same as a 10 year old girl.


So you have a right to distinguish on the basis of age, but society doesn't? I'm "self-righteous" for agreeing with most of society that a 14 year old girl is too young, but you're not self-righteous because you draw the line a little younger?

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18 y/old and 14 y/old having sex is not the same as a 38 y/old man molesting a 10 y/old girl. ... Cases need to be judged on a case by case basis.


I agree that the facts of every case have to be considered. But this goes more to the issue of punishment, not guilt. If they had sexual relations with a 14 year old girl, they are guilty. What punishment is appropriate will depend on all the circumstances surrounding it. I'm not saying they should necessarily go to jail. Maybe there are mitigating circumstances. But that's no excuse for the many on this board who think that they shouldn't even be charged and seem to defend the "right" of 18 year old boys to use 14 year old girls for sex, if they can get it.
Posted by Jaketigger
Baton Rouge Area
Member since Feb 2008
5064 posts
Posted on 1/20/11 at 5:36 pm to
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18 y/old and 14 y/old having sex is not the same as a 38 y/old man molesting a 10 y/old girl. ... Cases need to be judged on a case by case basis.




I agree that the facts of every case have to be considered. But this goes more to the issue of punishment, not guilt. If they had sexual relations with a 14 year old girl, they are guilty. What punishment is appropriate will depend on all the circumstances surrounding it. I'm not saying they should necessarily go to jail. Maybe there are mitigating circumstances. But that's no excuse for the many on this board who think that they shouldn't even be charged and seem to defend the "right" of 18 year old boys to use 14 year old girls for sex, if they can get it.

I agree with one caveat. When does the age difference between a 14 y/o and a man become too big?
23? 24? 27? 28?
NO ONE CAN STATE THAT! Why because those on here are putting this on the 14 y/o girl. Throwing the blame on her because "surely" she is a whore and lured them into the locker room....
They have made it about her instated of seeing it for what it was. 2 Men, one of which should have been done with HS, lured a 14 y/o into committing a crime.
This post was edited on 1/20/11 at 5:41 pm
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59193 posts
Posted on 1/20/11 at 9:40 pm to
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So you have a right to distinguish on the basis of age, but society doesn't? I'm "self-righteous" for agreeing with most of society that a 14 year old girl is too young, but you're not self-righteous because you draw the line a little younger?


This is a nice and very self righteous argument. I error on the side of individual freedom and common sense. I am not saying "I should determine the age" or that it should be younger. Or that there should not be an age of consent. I do realize there is a huge difference between HS kids who are 3-4 years apart having sex and a 35 y/old molosteing 8 y olds.

We as a "society" make sliding differences between kids all the time. The 18 y/o "adult", can go to prison, be drafted and vote, but can't buy a beer. We let a 16 y/o drive, but they can't vote or go to a "R" rated movie without someone over 17. a 14 y/old can go tp a PG13 movie alone, but not her 12 y /old sister. Most people would not have a problem with their 13 y/old son mowing the lawn, but wouldn't think of letting a 9 y/old do the same thing.

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I agree that the facts of every case have to be considered. But this goes more to the issue of punishment, not guilt. If they had sexual relations with a 14 year old girl, they are guilty. What punishment is appropriate will depend on all the circumstances surrounding it. I'm not saying they should necessarily go to jail. Maybe there are mitigating circumstances.


Then we are in agreement. I see no benefit to anyone or "society" for imprisoning an 18 y/old HS Sr for having consensual sex with a younger classmate.

In this case the girl is 14, but there are many cases where the girl is older 16 or 17 depending on the state. There was one case, I forget the state (Georgia maybe?) anyway, a 19 y/old had sex with his then 17 y/old GF. She got in a fight with her mother who reported him to the cops. He was arrested and charge with Stat Rape. Went to jail, even after the mother and daughter pleaded with the DA to drop the charges. They are now married, but he is registered sex offender for the rest of his life. He can't pick up his own kids from school. They had to move out into the sticks basically because he couldn't live with in x number of yds from schools, churches or places kids might go. Now is that justice? Is your fricking society better off? Your kids safer? Or are we just wasting time and money.
This post was edited on 1/20/11 at 9:47 pm
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