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Recruits Rivals got wrong

Posted on 1/19/11 at 2:35 pm
Posted by ragacamps
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Posted on 1/19/11 at 2:35 pm
Colt Mccoy 3 stars
Ray Rice 3 stars
Jo JO Lafell 3 stars
Dan Wiiliams 3 stars
Malcom Jenkins 3 stars
Sydney Rice 3 stars
Flacco 3 stars
Matt Ryan 3 stars
and about a billion more

Ok not to mention the 100's of guys they ranked too high. My point being lets not complain to much about this guy or that guy not getting bumped another star. who cares!! By the way max preps had all these guys higher ranked then rivals
Posted by Suntiger
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Posted on 1/19/11 at 2:37 pm to
Posted by c on z
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Posted on 1/19/11 at 2:37 pm to
Sam Bradford
Posted by TailgatingTiger26
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2010
763 posts
Posted on 1/19/11 at 2:38 pm to
chris johnson as well
LINK

well not really. no one knew he'd turn to what he is now.
This post was edited on 1/19/11 at 2:39 pm
Posted by Duckie
Tippy Toe, Louisiana
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 1/19/11 at 2:38 pm to
Think about the hundreds they got right thouhg.
Posted by TailgatingTiger26
Baton Rouge
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763 posts
Posted on 1/19/11 at 2:40 pm to
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Think about the hundreds they got right though.
Exactly
Posted by ragacamps
Member since Jan 2011
2997 posts
Posted on 1/19/11 at 2:44 pm to
My point is the good coaches know way better how to evaluate talent then a rivals recruiting guy or any other service. Myself thinks that Hilliard is not only going to be good but if this guy stays healthy may end up being the first rb taken in a future draft. I watched this guy play and it like a 220 pound bowling ball rolling downhill he is a beast
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 1/19/11 at 2:46 pm to
There's only about 255 or so spots for a guy to be four star or better. Guys that are below that ranking have a greater sample size to be drawn from. It's inevitable that there are going to be some misses. It's just statistics.
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 1/19/11 at 2:48 pm to
Show me the guy who has never misevaluated talent and I'll show you the highest paid employee in the NFL.
Posted by Tiger Phanatick
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2008
4107 posts
Posted on 1/19/11 at 2:50 pm to
quote:

Think about the hundreds they got right thouhg.


I think people say this and dont think about it. Like Chris Rock says "Thats what you suppose to do." People pay ten bucks a month for them to get it right. Thast the value of tehre services. They are the so called experts.

If a doctor lost 10 patients a year and you needed surgery from him.........you wouldnt dare say look at all the lives he saved. you would think about thos ten that he lost. in that one year.

To your point they do it get it right more than they do wrong. But the wrongs are so loud its really embarassing on there behalfs.

I dont get mad at Rivals or Scouts etc for this. They only get limited tapes and stuff so there is no way they can get it right all the time.

BTW the way Aaron Curry and Jason Smith were both underrated and eventually forst rounders.
Posted by Woopigsooie20
Me Scusi
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 1/19/11 at 2:51 pm to
Rivals is in a freefall right now, and until they guys to replace the ones the left they're going to continue to fall.
Posted by GeauxTigersLee
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2010
4688 posts
Posted on 1/19/11 at 2:57 pm to
Look at the problems the NFL scouts have evaluating talent, and they're looking at a player pool in the hundreds. How many #1 draft picks have been busts? Evaluating high school players and the player pool is in the thousands. It's impossible to predict what some of these kids are going to grow into....their body/size and talent.
This post was edited on 1/19/11 at 2:58 pm
Posted by NOSA
Member since Jan 2004
10192 posts
Posted on 1/19/11 at 2:57 pm to
I totally understand ripping Rivals for some stuff, but getting some guys ranking wrong is one I don't get. Just look at the NFL draft. There are 4 more years of in-depth evaluation with a more balanced level of competition and a much smaller sampling of players and teams still draft busts.

ETA: Or read what GeauxTigersLee said and save some time.
This post was edited on 1/19/11 at 2:58 pm
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 1/19/11 at 2:58 pm to
Hey guys! Did y'all know Hester was a 2*!!!!



Posted by bwallcubfan
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2007
38944 posts
Posted on 1/19/11 at 3:02 pm to
quote:

chris johnson as well
LINK


That says he runs a 4.4... He can run that backwards
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 1/19/11 at 3:03 pm to
quote:

BTW the way Aaron Curry and Jason Smith were both underrated and eventually forst rounders.


And have both been NFL busts to date...
Posted by Tiger Phanatick
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2008
4107 posts
Posted on 1/19/11 at 3:10 pm to
yeah but there Jobs arent to eval great Pro players its prospects who will go pro.

If you go by that stipulation. no one will ever be right only a handful go pro and actaully make an impact in comparison
Posted by Duckie
Tippy Toe, Louisiana
Member since Apr 2010
24314 posts
Posted on 1/19/11 at 3:12 pm to
quote:

If a doctor lost 10 patients a year and you needed surgery from him.........you wouldnt dare say look at all the lives he saved. you would think about thos ten that he lost. in that one year.


I get what you're saying, but comparing doctors to recruiting gurus is not the same.

First off, one is a science and the other is a guessing game.
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 1/19/11 at 3:14 pm to
quote:

yeah but there Jobs arent to eval great Pro players its prospects who will go pro.


I think they'd disagree with you.

A LARGE chunk of their evaluations are based on guys who they think will be stars at the next two levels... which is why they hate on a guy like Landry (because they don't think he has the athletic tools to be an NFL star).
Posted by Tiger Phanatick
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2008
4107 posts
Posted on 1/19/11 at 3:27 pm to
quote:

I think they'd disagree with you.

A LARGE chunk of their evaluations are based on guys who they think will be stars at the next two levels... which is why they hate on a guy like Landry (because they don't think he has the athletic tools to be an NFL star).


If thats the case, we have already accepted that they cant be right. I dotn know what you are basing a successful nfl career from but I dont you can predict this from a kid iin High school. Then when you suck say i got it right most of the time. Its a dumb game.

I only hold Rivals to the expectations of dominant collegic ball players. And they still are 60/40 with them.
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