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re: Here's to Dale Brown!
Posted on 1/19/11 at 1:42 pm to redstick13
Posted on 1/19/11 at 1:42 pm to redstick13
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redstick13
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Actually Dale is the reason it sucks now
actually you are a idiot. What happened over 15 years ago is the reason NO ONE wants to go to the games huh?
Were you even ALIVE when DB was in control of the basketball program? Did you ever attend a game during his tenure?
LSU basketball was a wasteland without Dale Brown. You don't like or agree with certain things about the man? That's fine, you are welcome to your opinion.
But please KNOW the facts. LSU basketball was pretty much nothing before Dale Brown. And has been pretty much nothing since. Coach Brown put that program on the map more than any basketball player in LSU's history and yes that includes Pistol, Petit and Shaq
Posted on 1/19/11 at 1:42 pm to TigerFanNKaty
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because Dale spoke out about the hypocrisy of the whole damn institution and it pissed them off.
Cam Newton is solid proof of what Dale was saying
Posted on 1/19/11 at 1:44 pm to redstick13
I'd take a bullet for Dale Brown.
Posted on 1/19/11 at 1:59 pm to johnnydrama
Greg "Cookie Monster" Cook was one bad mofo - one of the nicest guys off court you would ever meet.
Posted on 1/19/11 at 1:59 pm to aroussel3Tigers
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Fact is, we have not had basketball like the Dale Brown era since then. It was rocking and fun!!! We were respected.
Truth
Posted on 1/19/11 at 2:02 pm to Sid in Lakeshore
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I'm going to assume you are in your 20's........Daddy Dale made LSU BBall into something for the first time ever. The NCAA then went after LSU when Dale was out the door, pressuring a young kid to lie for them.
As a guy in his mid-20’s I’d like to turn this comment upside-down a bit...I was 6 or 7 going to games at the PMAC when CJ and Shaq were there with my family and also started going to football games…a few years ago, my brother and I were reflecting back on that at the time and in our memories it felt LSU basketball felt bigger than LSU football. At the PMAC, sold out crowds were the norm, Mike would come down from the ceiling before tip-offs and the place was rocking. Meanwhile, there were tons of empty seats at football games where the most passion that was shown was grown men yelling to fire the coach. Daddy Dale did over-achieve with lesser talent and under-achieve with greater talent. But most importantly, he made LSU basketball matter. It’s more than just winning. I don’t think there was a real sell out during Brady's Final 4 season. Tim Brando made this point yesterday on the Finebaum show…for all of Bruce Pearl’s flaws, he’s made Tennessee basketball matter again, and the fan base has embraced him for that. Today at LSU (in every sport other than football), a coach has to be a marketer in addition to being a great coach…Skip understood this…Please TJ, make it matter…
This post was edited on 1/19/11 at 2:03 pm
Posted on 1/19/11 at 2:05 pm to Sid in Lakeshore
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I'm going to assume you are in your 20's........Daddy Dale made LSU BBall into something for the first time ever. The NCAA then went after LSU when Dale was out the door, pressuring a young kid to lie for them.
And you would assume wrong. I played against Clarence Ceaser in high school so you do the math. Look I have my opinion and you guys have yours. A girl on our high school basketball team had a bad encounter with "Daddy" Dale and it always stuck with me.
Posted on 1/19/11 at 2:05 pm to redstick13
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I think you guys need to knock the cobwebs off. Dale wasn't that great of a coach. His only success came with overachieving teams
Having a team or player overachieve is the fricking definition of a great coach, asswipe.
How do some of you even consider yourself sports fans?
SO with your moronic theory, who gets the credit when a player gets better than he was expected to be?
Posted on 1/19/11 at 2:10 pm to aroussel3Tigers
Amazing recruiter....average or below at everything else.
Posted on 1/19/11 at 2:12 pm to saintsfan22
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Probation from over a decade ago isn't the reason we suck now.
Ah those damned Draconian Sanctions...
Posted on 1/19/11 at 2:16 pm to redstick13
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A girl on our high school basketball team had a bad encounter with "Daddy" Dale
Come on...no need to take the discussion to that level.
Dale was great for LSU basketball till his last few years.
I think he decided to turn the program over to his asst. toward the end or else he loss his fire cause the program seemed to go south pretty fast.
As I recall, he had like a 15 year postseason run with two final 4's. Not too bad for a football school.
Posted on 1/19/11 at 2:16 pm to aroussel3Tigers
Dale was a great recruiter, not so good coach. His teams were widely viewed as underachieving. Everyone love Daddy Dale but anyone who tells you otherwise is full of shite, is too young, or has no memory.
Posted on 1/19/11 at 2:17 pm to redstick13
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Because he left us on probation
Go be a troll somewhere else.
Posted on 1/19/11 at 2:19 pm to redstick13
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A girl on our high school basketball team had a bad encounter with "Daddy" Dale and it always stuck with me.
Ruh roh! Care to elaborate?
And as much as I like TJ as a basketball coach, I just don't think he is charismatic enough to really get BR back into LSU basketball. Even with a consistent winner....at least not like it was in those days.
Posted on 1/19/11 at 2:22 pm to MC123
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Ruh roh! Care to elaborate?
Don't feed this dewsh. I can't believe it hasn't been whacked yet.
Posted on 1/19/11 at 2:26 pm to Lonnie4LSU
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A girl on our high school basketball team had a bad encounter with "Daddy" Dale
I will never argue the impact that Dale Brown had on LSU basketball, the state of Louisiana, or the less fortunate people that live here that he tried to help.
That being said, he has a side of him that feels he is above certain things. Women's basketball happens to be one of them.
In the late 70's, the men and women were playing a double-header in the Assembly Center. The women happened to be playing Tennessee, who even back then was a great power and Summitt was coaching. The women's game went to overtime and was threatening to push back the start time of the men's game. Dale halted the game after regulation and demanded that something be done. He suggested they finish the game in the auxillary gym downstairs, but that was unacceptable. The 2 teams ended up playing a 5 minute running clock OT, instead of the normally timed period. Tennessee ended up winning by 5, but Summitt and Tennessee were livid. A week later, the 2 teams met in Knoxville and Tennessee won by 40.
Cliff notes version...Dale thought he was above a women's game and wanted to run them to the basement. Good thing for him Title IX didn't exist yet...
Posted on 1/19/11 at 2:28 pm to CerealKilla
Dale was a great recruiter and great motivator. Pure X's and O's were not his strong points, but he could get guys to believe they were better than they actually were (See '86 Final Four team). He was also a showman. He made LSU basketball an event, just like Bruce Pearl has done at Tenn.
Today's struggles are not Dale Brown's fault. (They also aren't John Brady's fault). TJ is in charge now and the success and failures of his teams are laid at his feet.
The apathy of the fan base is the.... fan's fault. After the '06 Final Four season, the fans failed to show interest in the team (even in the early part of the season before SEC play). In the '09 SEC championship season, the fans still failed to get excited until damn near the last home game of the season.
Today's struggles are not Dale Brown's fault. (They also aren't John Brady's fault). TJ is in charge now and the success and failures of his teams are laid at his feet.
The apathy of the fan base is the.... fan's fault. After the '06 Final Four season, the fans failed to show interest in the team (even in the early part of the season before SEC play). In the '09 SEC championship season, the fans still failed to get excited until damn near the last home game of the season.
Posted on 1/19/11 at 2:31 pm to Alt26
I think CJ is a good coach, we have a lack of talent if he can get some players maybe things will change. It's a shame but I used to get excited about LSU basketball now not at all. The only thing that will change the atmosphere is consistent winning and it doesn't look like that will happen anytime soon.
Posted on 1/19/11 at 2:32 pm to The Mick
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Dale was a great recruiter, not so good coach. His teams were widely viewed as underachieving. Everyone love Daddy Dale but anyone who tells you otherwise is full of shite, is too young, or has no memory.
Stated more accurately, Dale was always viewed as a master motivator and not so much of an x's and o's coach. He was often thought to overachieve with some of his talent. The whole Shaq, Stanley Roberts, Chris Jackson thing is a weak argument for underachieving. Shaq was a true freshman, was often in foul trouble, and no where near the scoring threat he would grow into the next couple of years. Stanley was a red shirt freshman, so it was his first year playing. Chris was awesome. But it was their first and only year playing together at a time when star players hung around for at least 3 years. Had this team stayed together, it would have been special. But it was unreasonable to have expected them to go so deep when it was Shaq's and Stanley's first year playing.
Posted on 1/19/11 at 2:36 pm to LSUGrad9295
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Cliff notes version...Dale thought he was above a women's game and wanted to run them to the basement. Good thing for him Title IX didn't exist yet...
Who isn't above girls basketball? It's the absolute worst.
Title IX is the G.I Bill for women.
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