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re: How many of Les' 17 losses were due to coaching?

Posted on 1/17/11 at 11:06 pm to
Posted by geaux99
Wamegeaux, KS
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 1/17/11 at 11:06 pm to
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How many of Les' 17 losses were due to coaching?


How many of his 61 wins were despite coaching? Probably the same percentage. Really, do you think Mississipi State was outcoached the last 2 years (Hell, only Gerry's kids lost to MSU in the last 15 years...and Dinardo only lost once)...so there's 6 guarenteed wins--we won't talk about the 20 something rent-a-wins/directional schools LSU has played since Miles arrived on campus)? Or that the strategy and gamesmanship behind the Troy and Tulane games are on the shoulders of Miles? The 2007 SECCG? Auburn 2008? Georgia 2009? I'm happy with the 60+ wins, just not blind enough to give Miles' coaching prowess the glory for all of those victories.
Posted by fjhjr08
The Kingdom
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 1/18/11 at 7:20 am to
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How many of Les' 17 losses were due to coaching?


Now THAT is reaching!!!
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 1/18/11 at 8:26 am to
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so there's 6 guarenteed wins


Ask UF about that one.

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we won't talk about the 20 something rent-a-wins/directional schools LSU has played since Miles arrived on campus)


Which Saban-coached teams have lost to on more than one occasion.

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The 2007 SECCG


Really? With our starting QB out, the coach gets no credit for this?

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Auburn 2008? Georgia 2009?


Who coached the kids to play in these games again?

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just not blind enough to give Miles' coaching prowess the glory for all of those victories


Then who gets the credit? Did the players just show up on Saturdays and just make shite up as they went along and won?

Your post is pathetic.
Posted by Poodlebrain
Way Right of Rex
Member since Jan 2004
19860 posts
Posted on 1/18/11 at 8:55 am to
Tennessee in 05 was simply a case of LSU's players not being able to execute in the second half. It seemed as if every defensive player for LSU had to go to the locker room for an IV during the second half of the game. Tennessee didn't make radical changes in the second half that LSU failed to adjust for. The players just weren't in condition for a game in September heat and humidity following the interruptions to practice caused by Katrina and Rita.
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 1/18/11 at 9:19 am to
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Tennessee in '05


People need to getovwer this one.

Of all the losses in Miles' tenure (a whopping 17) this is easily the most forgivable.

How soon people forget this was in the immediate aftermath of Katrina and Rita and the team was complestely gassed. Given the situation it is not surprising they wore down at the end and couldn't hold the lead.

Tha fact that we did not lose again until the SECCG, I think, shows that 2005 was probaly one of Miles' best years coaching.
This post was edited on 1/18/11 at 9:25 am
Posted by alajones
Huntsvegas
Member since Oct 2005
34535 posts
Posted on 1/18/11 at 9:26 am to
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Ole Miss in '09
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Tennessee in '05
Yes. Absolutely.

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Kentucky and Arkansas in '07
No. The defense just sucked.
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Arkansas in '10
Not Miles' fault a safety had his head up his butt.

I'd thow in the Penn St. bowl loss. Auburn in 06.
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 1/18/11 at 9:40 am to
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I see little reason for optimism, because Jefferson will more than likely start next year.


man, that's incredible. you must be a real hoot to be around. LSU is close, very close to having a team that wins it all again. the team really matured by seasons end and there is every reason for optimism because of the new QB, JJ's improvement and the "new" offense.
Posted by alajones
Huntsvegas
Member since Oct 2005
34535 posts
Posted on 1/18/11 at 9:45 am to
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How soon people forget this was in the immediate aftermath of Katrina and Rita and the team was complestely gassed.
We were ahead 24-7 after 3 quarters. We had a TO yet let the clock run out in the first half around the 20.

He fudged that one up bad. And many Tiger fans obviously have not let him live it down. Espescially since he has proven to be mostly inept at time management. Just like people keep bashing Saban for losing to UAB forgetting that he was still rebuilding from a 3-8 year.
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 1/18/11 at 9:59 am to
I guess some people can't enjoy anything.

Its really funny how you and your ilk still have your panties in a bunch because of a loss over 5 years ago.

Get over it, we won the SECW that year, a NC two years later, and are in great position to make another run next year.

But, hey lets just focus on the bad stuff.
Posted by alajones
Huntsvegas
Member since Oct 2005
34535 posts
Posted on 1/18/11 at 10:18 am to
Did you read what the thread is about?
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Its really funny how you and your ilk still have your panties in a bunch because of a loss over 5 years ago.
Because I think Miles blew it. Ya know, the topic of the thread?
Posted by sabanisarustedspoke
Member since Jan 2007
4950 posts
Posted on 1/18/11 at 10:31 am to
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No argument. Just wondered how many losses people thought were due to coaching. I think being out coached in only 5 of 17 over 6 years is pretty good.


So losing 26% of the time because you are incompetent on gameday is OK with you? I really don't get this. If you include responsabilities such as recruitment, player development, and staff management, this number would be much higher.
Posted by Acreboy
Member since Nov 2005
38568 posts
Posted on 1/18/11 at 10:33 am to
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Tennessee in '05
my first game
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 1/18/11 at 10:54 am to
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So losing 26% of the time because you are incompetent on gameday is OK with you? I really don't get this. If you include responsabilities such as recruitment, player development, and staff management, this number would be much higher.



So how does that work for Meyer or Saban etc? Do they not lose the same way? This is a dumb topic
This post was edited on 1/18/11 at 10:54 am
Posted by sabanisarustedspoke
Member since Jan 2007
4950 posts
Posted on 1/18/11 at 11:06 am to
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So how does that work for Meyer or Saban etc? Do they not lose the same way? This is a dumb topic


I couldn't care less about the records of Saban or Meyer, and yes this is a retarded topic. For people who spent the entire season defending Les as though he were a blood relative, some on here are begging for continued criticism. I may not think Les is the greatest coach alive, but the people that continue to bring up the arguments of whether he is a good coach or not are always the supposed POSITIGERS. Since Les made a commitment to LSU that looks to be about as long term as he can make, the only threads questioning his abilities have been started by the people who "believe" he's the second coming of Lombardi.
Posted by bayou dave
slidell
Member since Nov 2006
474 posts
Posted on 1/18/11 at 11:16 am to
who cares
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