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Here's to LSU winning out and TCU and Boise State

Posted on 11/2/10 at 9:21 pm
Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
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Posted on 11/2/10 at 9:21 pm
being ranked 1 and 2 by the BCS at season's end. Even from my vantage point it seems clear that the odds favor both of these two marquis BCS teams ending the regular season sans blemish. That would require losses for both Oregon and Auburn, but what is life without hope?

A 1-2 finish by those institutions would be a long needed stiff dose of bitter reality for the entire CFB fandom (outsied of TCU and BSU homers)regarding the manipulation known as the BCS. It is very little more than a popularity contest run by media prima donas who probably are not much more informed about CFB that the average ranter...
Posted by White Tiger
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Posted on 11/2/10 at 9:21 pm to
So there!
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 11/2/10 at 10:12 pm to
Well, would rather have that happen in the last season of the BCS current contract because if it happens this year and the following three years are "normal" then this will be forgotten. And besides some people might actually like the system more since it let the "small" schools play for the crystal ball.
Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
15217 posts
Posted on 11/2/10 at 10:46 pm to
Fairness. Of coures, fairness. What to do, then, with the competitive society? Excellence is tempered only through continual competition. The rest is the sickly sweet aroma that the appeal to the corrosive effects of political correctness inevitably produces.
This post was edited on 11/2/10 at 10:47 pm
Posted by TigerB8r
West Palm Beach
Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 11/2/10 at 10:58 pm to
Strength of Schedule and Quality Win components need to be put back into the formula as in 2003.
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 11/2/10 at 11:02 pm to
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Strength of Schedule and Quality Win components need to be put back into the formula as in 2003.


Strength of schedule is a component in the computers, and the quality win component goes along with SOS technically.
Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
15217 posts
Posted on 11/3/10 at 7:28 am to
True enough, but that does not account for TCU and BSU...
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
28290 posts
Posted on 11/3/10 at 7:58 am to
I actually really like the BCS and think most in favor of a playoff have no idea what they want because they are not considering why they love college football in the first place.


What a concept! The regular season actually matters. Kudos to college football to be the first major sport to figure it out.
Posted by TheBestCoachLeslie
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 11/3/10 at 8:11 am to
I like our chances of beating TCU and Boise State. We have a damn strong football team. See ya!
Posted by Big Saint
Houston
Member since May 2009
1463 posts
Posted on 11/3/10 at 8:12 am to
Any team can win one game on a given day. Running through a gauntlet of top 10 teams in a playoff would be much tougher and great for college football fans everywhere. Why do you think March madness is so popular?
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 11/3/10 at 8:16 am to
A TCU Boise BCS CG game would shake up the BCS.

In case you missed it, its all about money, and id bet that this game would have the lowest ratings since the inception of the BCS.

Money drives change, and when they lose enough, it will change.
Posted by Indiana Tiger
Member since Feb 2005
4115 posts
Posted on 11/3/10 at 8:16 am to
quote:

Strength of Schedule and Quality Win components need to be put back into the formula as in 2003.

As has been pointed out SOS is part of the computer models, but I would like it back in too. It was never a big factor as it would only be sort of a tie breaker between very closely ranked teams. But by being explicit, it gave fans a reason to care about games all over the country and that is a good thing for the sport.

The quality wins component, while well intentioned, was an abomination that never should have been part of the BCS. There is just no good, fair way to implement it.
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
28290 posts
Posted on 11/3/10 at 8:17 am to
quote:

Why do you think March madness is so popular?



Why do you think college basketball's regular season is so unpopular?


quote:

Any team can win one game on a given day. Running through a gauntlet of top 10 teams in a playoff would be much tougher and great for college football fans everywhere


This argument is actually better for the current system than a playoff. You're right ... any team can win one game on a given day. That's why one-game playoffs are not true measures of the "best team" IMO. Could Boise State beat Auburn or Alabama in the BCSCG? Certainly. Does that mean Boise State is better than Alabama or Auburn? Hell no.

Hell look at the NFL playoffs ... the Giant won the SuperBowl a couple years back. The Giants were not even the best team in their own division, so how in the hell can someone sit back and tell me that they are the best team in the NFL?
This post was edited on 11/3/10 at 8:22 am
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
18494 posts
Posted on 11/3/10 at 8:22 am to
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Why do you think college basketball's regular season is so unpopular?


the same reason MLB, Hockey, and NBA suck. Too damn many games, and they play almost year around. (some exaggeration)
This post was edited on 11/3/10 at 8:25 am
Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
15217 posts
Posted on 11/3/10 at 4:54 pm to
bump
Posted by TigerInBamaLand
Birmingham, AL
Member since Oct 2007
4178 posts
Posted on 11/3/10 at 5:02 pm to
quote:

Could Boise State beat Auburn or Alabama in the BCSCG? Certainly. Does that mean Boise State is better than Alabama or Auburn? Hell no.
Then isn't this, in itself, an argument against the BCS?
Posted by JermStone
Beaumont, Tx
Member since Jun 2008
5741 posts
Posted on 11/3/10 at 5:11 pm to
2003 was the perfect bcs formula mimus one small detail. It put less emphasis on when you lost and put more emphasis on who you beat and who you lost to. The only thing I change is only conference champs can play for national. If you don't win your conference, you don't win national championship. That one stipulation would have had the game everyone wanted.
Posted by buzz1954LSU
Church Point, La.
Member since Nov 2009
635 posts
Posted on 11/3/10 at 5:13 pm to
You feel better now?
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
86359 posts
Posted on 11/3/10 at 5:13 pm to
Actually the system is fine, even in the playoffs the best team doesn't always win. the closest we will get to the playoffs is the so called "+1." If you start playoffs with 8 teams, then there will still be a problem choosing the #6, 7 and 8 teams; so this will only magnify the problem of teams being left out.
Posted by ottothewise
Member since Sep 2008
32094 posts
Posted on 11/3/10 at 5:34 pm to
quote:

Fairness. Of coures, fairness. What to do, then, with the competitive society? Excellence is tempered only through continual competition. The rest is the sickly sweet aroma that the appeal to the corrosive effects of political correctness inevitably produces.





Let's note that the SEC, Big-12, and ACC voted for a 4 team playoff.
Big Ten and Pac 10 held the Rose bowl to their lips and smelled the money. They vetoed the playoff.


Auburn vs Boise
Oregon vs TCU


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