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Miles will win back the fan base if the wheels don't come off

Posted on 10/26/10 at 12:06 am
Posted by siliconvalleytiger
Bay Area, CA
Member since Apr 2004
31326 posts
Posted on 10/26/10 at 12:06 am
If Miles can manage the current situation and not let this team meltdown then I think he'll win back most of the fanbase. This involves beating Bama and the rest of the schedule. Anything short of this and the grumbling will continue into next year.

This is the perfect opportunity for Miles.
Posted by cajun12
Houma, LA
Member since Sep 2004
2538 posts
Posted on 10/26/10 at 12:07 am to
99% of the fan base that is realistic, picked this team to finish 9-3 or 10-2 at best.....They won't be far from that
Posted by Abadeebadaba
FL
Member since Sep 2010
5033 posts
Posted on 10/26/10 at 12:08 am to
We can easily got 10-2. I say if we beat bama we go 11-1.
Posted by Brendoni
Oklahoma City, Ok
Member since Apr 2009
22225 posts
Posted on 10/26/10 at 12:10 am to
nothing wrong with going 10-2 because 9-3 is about what most expected. i also think most fans will be happy if he beats you know who.
Posted by Smoke Green
Tianjin, Peoples Republic of China
Member since Apr 2005
4372 posts
Posted on 10/26/10 at 12:13 am to
quote:

not let this team meltdown



the team is on the verge of a meltdown? ok.


quote:

beating Bama


that would go a long way in changing the narrative.
Posted by medtiger
Member since Sep 2003
21956 posts
Posted on 10/26/10 at 12:16 am to
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9-3 is about what most expected.


While this is true (it was my prediction before the season) this doesn't make it acceptable. I predicted we'd go 5-6 in 1999 under DiNardo, but that doesn't mean I would have been happy about it. Most people predicted 9-3 because they saw the team play last year under this same coaching staff. That doesn't mean that the fan base should tolerate that record. Less than an SEC West title should be considered a failure at LSU.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297196 posts
Posted on 10/26/10 at 12:16 am to
quote:

If Miles can manage the current situation and not let this team meltdown then I think he'll win back most of the fanbase. This involves beating Bama and the rest of the schedule. Anything short of this and the grumbling will continue into next year.

This is the perfect opportunity for Miles.


I actually agree. I don't have much faith, but I think he could win back the fans with a solid stretch run. I think the majority of fans are like I am, and want Miles to succeed but just don't have much faith.
Posted by Shaka Zulu
Member since Nov 2009
2493 posts
Posted on 10/26/10 at 12:31 am to
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think he could win back the fans with a solid stretch run.


No way. Too many fans, myself included, have witnessed too much confusion and luck to ever believe that Les Miles is adding value to the program. At this stage, Les Miles is an albatross. If Bob Stoops and Les Miles had identical records, but only one could go to the 'ship, the media would pick Stoops or any other coach over Les (and Stoops has made plenty of stupid decisions in the last 3 years). Les Miles is a laughingstock and a national whipping boy for the college football sports media.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297196 posts
Posted on 10/26/10 at 12:43 am to
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No way. Too many fans, myself included, have witnessed too much confusion and luck to ever believe that Les Miles is adding value to the program. At this stage, Les Miles is an albatross. If Bob Stoops and Les Miles had identical records, but only one could go to the 'ship, the media would pick Stoops or any other coach over Les (and Stoops has made plenty of stupid decisions in the last 3 years). Les Miles is a laughingstock and a national whipping boy for the college football sports media.



I think so. Probably 25% that will never accept Miles regardless of what happens, 25% who will love him no matter what happens and the rest are hoping for a change but don't put much faith that it can happen. If Miles shows a propensity to change and make something happen, he can maintain a majority of fans who are behind him again. Its certainly not that way now.
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 10/26/10 at 12:46 am to
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Less than an SEC West title should be considered a failure at LSU.


So, to date, Nick Saban failed exactly as much as Les Miles.

This post was edited on 10/26/10 at 12:47 am
Posted by Hitchcock
Member since Oct 2008
2889 posts
Posted on 10/26/10 at 12:47 am to
quote:

hat would go a long way in changing the narrative.



Nope, it wouldn't change a thing. See Shaka Khan's post above. So much pure hate for such a good record. I believe Miles already has something worked out.
This post was edited on 10/26/10 at 12:48 am
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 10/26/10 at 12:47 am to
quote:

No way. Too many fans, myself included, have witnessed too much confusion and luck to ever believe that Les Miles is adding value to the program. At this stage, Les Miles is an albatross. If Bob Stoops and Les Miles had identical records, but only one could go to the 'ship, the media would pick Stoops or any other coach over Les (and Stoops has made plenty of stupid decisions in the last 3 years). Les Miles is a laughingstock and a national whipping boy for the college football sports media.



Winning makes everything right.

When you win, everyone just has to shut the frick up and watch.
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
15444 posts
Posted on 10/26/10 at 12:49 am to
He needs to fricking show he knows something. Pick a qb and play him the whole game. Thisw undecided bullshite is dividing teh locker room and the fan base and don't you dare think it doesn't matter when every student on campus is putting shite in these players ears all week!
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170708 posts
Posted on 10/26/10 at 12:50 am to
quote:


Winning makes everything right.


Not really

He was probably under more heat from the fan base after the Tenn game than the AU game

Piss poor game management rightfully pisses off the fan base

Ole Miss in 09, Tenn and UF this year, AU this year

How many instances of shitty game and clock management do you need to see before you lose confidence in the guy to consistently win close games without a rabbit's foot?
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 10/26/10 at 12:54 am to
quote:

Not really

He was probably under more heat from the fan base after the Tenn game than the AU game

Piss poor game management rightfully pisses off the fan base

Ole Miss in 09, Tenn and UF this year, AU this year

How many instances of shitty game and clock management do you need to see before you lose confidence in the guy to consistently win close games without a rabbit's foot?


Once again, if we finish 11-1 in the regular, 98% of the fanbase won't give two shits about "how" it happened, because it happened.

And as much as everyone has bitched about how impossible it is for LSU to finish strong this season, the majority of people like you would be won over by the fact that we somehow were able to do it. It's impossible to deny winning when it is happening.

Of course, people like you would still find a way to bemoan every possible positive thing that happens, but those type of fans will always exist.

ETA: A large majority of how you feel about Miles is based on the assumption that we CANNOT keep winning BECAUSE the process is bad.

If we keep winning, you don't really have that argument to fall back on.
This post was edited on 10/26/10 at 12:57 am
Posted by Hitchcock
Member since Oct 2008
2889 posts
Posted on 10/26/10 at 1:06 am to
quote:


Not really

He was probably under more heat from the fan base after the Tenn game than the AU game

Piss poor game management rightfully pisses off the fan base

Ole Miss in 09, Tenn and UF this year, AU this year


eh..I see you hiring a very mid-level coach likely winning 7-8 games. Never saw an LSU fanbase before 2005 "rightfully" pisssed about a win. Somehow the "Bluegrass Miracle" is forgotten.

quote:


How many instances of shitty game and clock management do you need to see before you lose confidence in the guy to consistently win close games without a rabbit's foot?


True the TV guys, Gary Danielson in particular plays the LSU fanbase like a concert pianist:

"Uh oh..is it Les Miles Time??"
Posted by Lambfries
NOLA, LA
Member since Sep 2008
329 posts
Posted on 10/26/10 at 1:51 am to
We could easily be 4-4. Last second wins over UNC and Tenn and a fake field goal to beat Florida. We will not be Bama or Ark. We have no offense!
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92902 posts
Posted on 10/26/10 at 1:54 am to
If we win out and Auburn loses 2 we can still win the BCS!! Look at 2007....it could happen!!!
Posted by carrell
Austin TX
Member since Nov 2009
515 posts
Posted on 10/26/10 at 1:58 am to
Wrong - I just want him gone.

Such sustained incompetence must be genetic. Can't be fixed. Either that or he toked up so much during college he is having freebies during the games.
Posted by carrell
Austin TX
Member since Nov 2009
515 posts
Posted on 10/26/10 at 2:04 am to
quote:

Hitchcock
Gary Danielson in particular plays the LSU fanbase like a concert pianist:

"Uh oh..is it Les Miles Time??"


Gary Danielson just happens to be the best analyst in college FB. Why they pair him up with that idiot Vern Lundquist who gets every other comment wrong or states the obvious is beyond me. Maybe they figure Gary needs comic relief, so they stick him with Bozo Lundquist.

Back to the topic at-hand: Danielson, like most rational people, sees Les for what he is, someone who "took a premier team and made it into a pretty good team with a bunch of athletes."
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