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re: interception on the first drive (w/ pics)
Posted on 10/25/10 at 3:34 pm to PMV124
Posted on 10/25/10 at 3:34 pm to PMV124
In no way was that on RR. I know as a competitor and WR he feels like he could have come down with it. But, it was a HORRIBLE pass.
One problem I have with Miles is accountability. How TT doesn't get a seat on the pine is beyond me. He's dropped passes all year long. I'm not saying it would be permenant, but I'd give Wright or Boone a chance to show what they can do. And RR would be my #1 option........
One problem I have with Miles is accountability. How TT doesn't get a seat on the pine is beyond me. He's dropped passes all year long. I'm not saying it would be permenant, but I'd give Wright or Boone a chance to show what they can do. And RR would be my #1 option........
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Posted on 10/25/10 at 3:36 pm to NOLATiger4321
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The pass should have been between the numbers so he could have ran for yardage. There was plenty of time for an accurate pass.
THIS!
Screw could have gotten to it, etc. This is the problem is that our WR's are always have to dive, jump, turn around and twist their bodies to catch the ball. You hit RR within 3 feet of the target there and he's got at least an opportunity at RAC yardage. Worst-case, is that he should be able to catch the ball without getting decapitated on a half decent throw. Glad someone posted the pics though as my original opinion has been confirmed... The pick is on JJ, not really any room to talk about it. Hit RR close to his body and we aren't talking about an INT.
Posted on 10/25/10 at 3:37 pm to ashy larry
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“On the first drop, if he closes his hands, it’s not an interception and the feel of the game is completely different,” LSU coach Les Miles said.
what a DICK.
Posted on 10/25/10 at 3:41 pm to OBUDan
quote:And this is relevant how?
But doesn't mean an average high schooler should.
The bottom line is that Randle was wide open, Jefferson had "all day" to throw the ball (compared to most of they day when both QBs were harassed) and had space to step into the throw, and nothing short of a maybe-once-a-season highlight reel catch would have sufficed to secure that ball.
And bigger picture is that this is par for the course with Jefferson.
Posted on 10/25/10 at 3:42 pm to Ice Cold
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And this is relevant how?
I was responding to someone who said that.
Posted on 10/25/10 at 3:43 pm to PMV124
My summary after reading all 5 pages:
JJ made a horrible throw to a wide open RR resulting in an int. and killing LSU's early momentum.
RR couragously took the fault for the int. instead of throwing JJ under the bus.
It would've taken a major miracle for RR to make the catch.
It's surprising how many fans think that when JJ's play goes sour, there's someone on the team more at fault than JJ.
Our receivers dropped way too many catchable passes.
And my own personal observation: Even the rare completed pass thrown by JJ is poorly thrown, i.e. thrown to the wrong spot for the receiver or out of synch w/ the receiver. I think this is a big part of the dropped passes. The receiver never knows where the ball is going to be or where it's going to be so he ends up missing what looks to us to be a routine catch. I rewatched the Vanderbilt game last week. There were a number of JJ's passes that would've been easy TD's had he thrown them to the right spot at the right time. Instead, the pass ends up being completed, but for only 5-7 yards.
JJ made a horrible throw to a wide open RR resulting in an int. and killing LSU's early momentum.
RR couragously took the fault for the int. instead of throwing JJ under the bus.
It would've taken a major miracle for RR to make the catch.
It's surprising how many fans think that when JJ's play goes sour, there's someone on the team more at fault than JJ.
Our receivers dropped way too many catchable passes.
And my own personal observation: Even the rare completed pass thrown by JJ is poorly thrown, i.e. thrown to the wrong spot for the receiver or out of synch w/ the receiver. I think this is a big part of the dropped passes. The receiver never knows where the ball is going to be or where it's going to be so he ends up missing what looks to us to be a routine catch. I rewatched the Vanderbilt game last week. There were a number of JJ's passes that would've been easy TD's had he thrown them to the right spot at the right time. Instead, the pass ends up being completed, but for only 5-7 yards.
Posted on 10/25/10 at 3:45 pm to geaux1227
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That was about 80% RR
GTFO
Posted on 10/25/10 at 3:47 pm to ISDSTiger
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“On the first drop, if he closes his hands, it’s not an interception and the feel of the game is completely different,” LSU coach Les Miles said.
what a DICK.
i know, id tell Miles to piss off if I were RR...
Posted on 10/25/10 at 3:56 pm to TigerFan55555
It's tough to say who was at fault. In a baseball analogy, when is it a passed ball versus a wild pitch? Sometimes it is really hard to tell and at the end of the day, both players have to own up to some of the responsibility. RR did and I admire him for that.
Posted on 10/25/10 at 3:58 pm to ashy larry
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He had enough of the ball on his hands to at least knock it down.
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WTF you are talking about???? Do you saw how high RR jump and try to catch the ball? How can you even ask RR to at least knock the ball down?? Are you out of your mind? I am starting to question your "football IQ" or I am sorry if you are blind.....
He had enough of the ball on his hands to at least knock it down.
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WTF you are talking about???? Do you saw how high RR jump and try to catch the ball? How can you even ask RR to at least knock the ball down?? Are you out of your mind? I am starting to question your "football IQ" or I am sorry if you are blind.....
Posted on 10/25/10 at 3:58 pm to ashy larry
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He had enough of the ball on his hands to at least knock it down.
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WTF you are talking about???? Do you saw how high RR jump and try to catch the ball? How can you even ask RR to at least knock the ball down?? Are you out of your mind? I am starting to question your "football IQ" or I am sorry if you are blind.....
He had enough of the ball on his hands to at least knock it down.
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WTF you are talking about???? Do you saw how high RR jump and try to catch the ball? How can you even ask RR to at least knock the ball down?? Are you out of your mind? I am starting to question your "football IQ" or I am sorry if you are blind.....
Posted on 10/25/10 at 4:00 pm to ashy larry
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Of course I'd never expect Les Miles to blame JJ for anything, but throwing your WR under the bus is a dick move.
Which is interesting, considering how quickly he threw JL under the bus in 2008. Back to that revealing pictures thing, huh?
Posted on 10/25/10 at 4:02 pm to lsuhunt555
I agree with you! In baseball this would be an error on the player throwing the ball not the one trying to catch it.
Posted on 10/25/10 at 4:03 pm to chowell21
Not many people can make that catch. He's vertical, on the brink of getting smashed. Not to mention, because of throwing into the wind i am sure it prolly sailed a bit. Would have been a great catch and a game changer. But we had the wrong guy throwing that pass i believe.
Posted on 10/25/10 at 4:06 pm to mlminbtr
No doubt about that. It would have been ruled a wild pitch. Wild pitches can't be intercepted though! All I am saying is that you don't see any catchers throwing their pitchers under the bus. They take some of the blame even when they did all they could to catch, receive, or block the pitch. I think RR did all he could.
Posted on 10/25/10 at 4:09 pm to Ultraclassictiger
Those of you saying he should have caught that ball or knock it down need to realize that Jefferson is not tossing a tennis ball underhanded to him.He's throwing a football with a spiral on it.
Let's go in the back yard and I'll throw the same type pass at you and see if you can catch it. And then to make the effect even more real, we'll put a 250 lb dude running full speed at you waiting for you to catch it with your highest vertical leap and reaching at the sky as high as you can - and then you know the hit is coming.
Let's go in the back yard and I'll throw the same type pass at you and see if you can catch it. And then to make the effect even more real, we'll put a 250 lb dude running full speed at you waiting for you to catch it with your highest vertical leap and reaching at the sky as high as you can - and then you know the hit is coming.
Posted on 10/25/10 at 4:11 pm to FineWine
How come I alwasys WRs and QB(Lee) took a blame of Ints ect... but not JJ?? Did I miss something here because I never hear JJ took any blame....
Posted on 10/25/10 at 4:12 pm to hemiroid
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this pic was taken at the very moment the ball hit his fingertips. RR is FULLY extended and can barely even touch it. Keep in mind this camera angle is from above and makes the ball look even closer than it really is.
If you think thats as high as randle can jump your a tard and a half...
He took a hop jump, should have easily snatched that ball and brought it down, thats how they teach it arse...
however, was still a bad throw that could've been placed way better to allow randle to catch it and run/not get hit, but Randle should have caught it and pulled it down right before the Auburn db laid the hit...
No excuse for Randle to drop that, none...
Still a shitty throw but the receiver has to make the catch, and its not really a high difficulty catch, and if he would have caught it no one would have been wowed... Should have beena routine catch on an overthrown ball that he easily got his hands on, where that ball was placed is without a doubt within Randle's leaping radius...
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WTF you are talking about???? Do you saw how high RR jump and try to catch the ball? How can you even ask RR to at least knock the ball down?? Are you out of your mind? I am starting to question your "football IQ" or I am sorry if you are blind.....
lol, yeh ok everybody on this thread must have a vertical of 25 inches or less... Randle is not that high of the ground, that was not a full jump receivers are taught to pluck the ball on quick slants, which is what he did and why he is fully extended, he just didnt make the catch...
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Let's go in the back yard and I'll throw the same type pass at you and see if you can catch it. And then to make the effect even more real, we'll put a 250 lb dude running full speed at you waiting for you to catch it with your highest vertical leap and reaching at the sky as high as you can - and then you know the hit is coming.
That db was 250? lol, oh yeh, thats what he was supposed to do was catch the ball right? oh and highest vertical leap (dude had a running start nothin about that jump was vertical)? Get outta here his feet were no higher than 25-30 inches off the ground, Randle only jumped as high as he needed to catch it which is what he's supposed to do, he did everything right except make the catch....
Oh and its not ok to drop the ball even if its a tough catch...Was it a tough catch? yes, but would not have been a spectacular catch by any means... If you dont understand that receivers are supposed to catch that or make sure that no one else does, then I question your football knowledge, or at very least know that you never played at WR or anywhere remotely close to it...
This post was edited on 10/25/10 at 4:25 pm
Posted on 10/25/10 at 4:19 pm to Sid in Lakeshore
This ball is caught 10% of the time by the best college WR's, IMO.
I agree with your opinion but read the following statement to tell me what you think???
This ball could throw 10% better by 99% of worest college QBs. IMO
I agree with your opinion but read the following statement to tell me what you think???
This ball could throw 10% better by 99% of worest college QBs. IMO
Posted on 10/25/10 at 4:19 pm to ashy larry
Looking at the RR picture makes me want to puke. RR was WFO. 
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