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re: What do you guys make of Blue going in before Ford?

Posted on 9/12/10 at 11:33 am to
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 9/12/10 at 11:33 am to
If he isn't playing because there are 4 RB's better, then maybe it's for the best.
Posted by ready4something
virginia beach
Member since Jul 2008
6541 posts
Posted on 9/12/10 at 11:33 am to
miles has done that since he has been at lsu when there is a player that can potentially outshine the starter of his choice on offense that player hardly sees the field,,,,ie the following examples

JR and M flynn 2005/2006
M flynn and R perrilloux 2007
Hester and C scott/k williams 2007
c scott and k williams 2009
jj and lee 2010
ridley is his back of choice so you will never see his main comp in ford.
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81266 posts
Posted on 9/12/10 at 11:33 am to
lol
Posted by tigerguy121
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2006
10695 posts
Posted on 9/12/10 at 11:33 am to
I would have thought Ford was the better prospect out of him and Blue but I refuse to believe Les is calling plays to spite the callers of his radio show.
Posted by ThePistol
Lafayette, LA
Member since Mar 2007
1533 posts
Posted on 9/12/10 at 11:37 am to
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So you two mental giants actually believe that Les Miles' decisions are fan based reactions? Seriously? He goes into coaches meetings at game prep and tell his coaches, "The fans want this or that. Let's not give it to them. Let's game plan just to aggrivate the fans. I don't care what scouting reports say. I want to make fans upset. Screw winning, I want to see how angry I can make a few fans."
I mean really?



I said the interview and his response was directed at the fans, not his personnel decisions or play calling. I think you are crazy if you dont think that he is getting frustrated with the perception that he doesn't know what he was doing. Ford and Ware are both better athletes, prospects, and had much more productive careers prior to LSU. Les has a history of playing guys he "trusts". Blue gets in and fumbles a good pitch and immediately gets interviewed. He was defending himself. Its simple.
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
60739 posts
Posted on 9/12/10 at 11:38 am to
If you don't think Les has favorites there is no point talking to you. No matter what he does you follow blindly.
Posted by STLSU
Hallandale Beach, FL
Member since Dec 2004
14683 posts
Posted on 9/12/10 at 11:38 am to
Les has a plan, this is not the place to question our leadership. Go back to your posts, private negatigers
Posted by STLSU
Hallandale Beach, FL
Member since Dec 2004
14683 posts
Posted on 9/12/10 at 11:42 am to
Ford deleted his facebook account the day before the UNC whateverthefrickthatwas game. Not because he is riding the pine, but because he needs to practice harder, get more book smartier and learn the Lessinator (and his puppet ScareCrow's) playbook. And hit the weights, too. Blue isn't 240 but he's a special pet and talent.
Posted by That LSU Guy
The beach
Member since Jul 2008
11551 posts
Posted on 9/12/10 at 11:43 am to
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I had never heard of Blue before - had you???
Maybe if you followed recruiting...
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 9/12/10 at 11:43 am to
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Ford and Ware are both better athletes, prospects, and had much more productive careers prior to LSU.


That sort of sums it all up doesn't it? Prior to LSU. What matters is the here and now.
Players earn this "tust" in any number of ways. If I were a coach I would play a kid that I "trusted" would not blow plays, miss assignments, etc. over one that had a great high school career.
Posted by ThePistol
Lafayette, LA
Member since Mar 2007
1533 posts
Posted on 9/12/10 at 11:50 am to
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Players earn this "tust" in any number of ways. If I were a coach I would play a kid that I "trusted" would not blow plays, miss assignments, etc. over one that had a great high school career.


So Blue played on 7 plays and blew a play. I haven't seen the others do that. I know that Ford and Ware are faster and better athletes. You would too if you took a second and just thought for yourself. Now, I have come to grips that they will not play and Blue will but I just won't be ignorant and think that all of our top RB recruits either can't block or can't learn a playbook. I will admit one thing, I would be much happier if I could be like you and forget what I see with my own eyes and just go on what our coach says.
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 9/12/10 at 11:56 am to
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I know that Ford and Ware are faster and better athletes

Are they better suited to this offense, this game, these situations?

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I will admit one thing, I would be much happier if I could be like you and forget what I see with my own eyes and just go on what our coach says.


What makes you more perceptive of what these kids can do NOW? Why all the second guessing on a WIN? I can understand a certain amount of second guessing on a loss, but a WIN? What did you see with your own eyes? At what point in the game did Ford and Ware demonstrate that they are better than those that played ahead of them?
Why complain about a win?
Posted by ThePistol
Lafayette, LA
Member since Mar 2007
1533 posts
Posted on 9/12/10 at 12:03 pm to
So in a matter of months a kid that recruiting analysts thought might be better suited to be a linebacker at the SEC level or mid major RB beat out a kid that was the leading rusher in the spring game or a highly thought of national recruit who was ranked right behind Marcus Lattimore?
And I really don't understand what the "Are they better athletes for this offense?" comment meant. We lined up and ran the ball right at them. Yes, there were some holes created by our Oline last night that Ware and Ford could have broken simply because they are faster football players.
Also, there was no way that LSU could have lost that game with the way the defense played. As an educated fan, I used this game to grade progression from an offensive unit that has been mediocre at best for the better part of two seasons. I was not impressed and I am worried. I am sorry if I, along with many other Tiger fans, see the need for concern.
Posted by mgdtiger
Member since May 2006
2869 posts
Posted on 9/12/10 at 12:03 pm to
How do u know who is faster and the better athlete. Blue was underrated in recruiting because he originally was thought to be a 2011 recruit. He was a stud in hs as the other 2 were also. Maybe just maybe blue is better or at least better today
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
60739 posts
Posted on 9/12/10 at 12:03 pm to
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Why all the second guessing on a WIN? I can understand a certain amount of second guessing on a loss, but a WIN?


You keep acting like LSU beat Bama yesterday. It was fricking Vanderbilt.
Posted by DG334LYF
#34 - Ridley
Member since Jul 2009
6597 posts
Posted on 9/12/10 at 12:05 pm to
my daddy always said "a win is a win is a win".

yes it was vandy, but it was still a win. That Blue got to see the field shows that Les sees a potential in him, and was probably just testing the waters with Blue.
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
60739 posts
Posted on 9/12/10 at 12:06 pm to
So he doesn't see potential in Ford?
Posted by ThePistol
Lafayette, LA
Member since Mar 2007
1533 posts
Posted on 9/12/10 at 12:06 pm to
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Blue was underrated in recruiting because he originally was thought to be a 2011 recruit. He was a stud in hs as the other 2 were also. Maybe just maybe blue is better or at least better today


This is simply incorrect.
Posted by DG334LYF
#34 - Ridley
Member since Jul 2009
6597 posts
Posted on 9/12/10 at 12:09 pm to
not what I meant. I meant that he might have given Blue time on the field to see if he can live up to the expectations Les has for him, and if he can be as good of a RB as Ford is. He knows what Ford is capable of and is probably just trying to figure out what Blue is good for now that he is here.
This post was edited on 9/12/10 at 12:10 pm
Posted by ThePistol
Lafayette, LA
Member since Mar 2007
1533 posts
Posted on 9/12/10 at 12:10 pm to
I also want to say that had Blue come in and played very well I would have been ecstatic. Instead, I saw a kid that ran for a maximum of two yards per carry until the Red Sea parted on the touchdown and he directly lost 10 yards on the option. If he plays well in the future, I am going to pull for and support the kid. Until then, the decision to play him in front of Ford and Ware baffles me.
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